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13th January 2024, 08:39
Thread: M-Sport Ford World Rally Teams
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Hardly a fan of the sport then, are you? The top...
Hardly a fan of the sport then, are you? The top drivers will make most cars look good......
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22nd December 2023, 20:41
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Look at Ford's Mustang GT3 line up of...
Look at Ford's Mustang GT3 line up of drivers......Ford have got the cheque book out for them. They do have money for motorsport - just not for their WRC effort.....
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19th September 2023, 15:31
Thread: M-Sport Ford World Rally Teams
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I don't give a toss about somebody's...
I don't give a toss about somebody's business.....the sport is far more important in the long term.
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19th September 2023, 12:28
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Another wrong decision; Rally2/ R5 cars are...
Another wrong decision; Rally2/ R5 cars are enough for National events; another class for rich businessman is not needed. When are people in UK rallying going to wake up?
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5th July 2023, 11:11
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The criticism is nothing compared to major...
The criticism is nothing compared to major sports.....
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14th March 2023, 08:36
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The rich amateur/ gentleman driver has always...
The rich amateur/ gentleman driver has always been a part of motorsport; they quite often fund teams/ help other drivers. We see it in rallying, as well more obviously in Sportscars.....
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24th January 2023, 08:45
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Very much like Rohrl; Tony Fall sat in with him...
Very much like Rohrl; Tony Fall sat in with him and couldn't get his head around how much understeer he could handle.....And both were useful on circuits.....
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16th January 2023, 14:18
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Loubet??? What for? I honestly don't understand...
Loubet??? What for? I honestly don't understand how RB pick some of their athletes. Some make absolutely no sense (Fourmaux), yet there are others who you think should be, and they're not.
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15th December 2022, 08:40
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Yes, I know - I was being 'tongue in cheek'/...
Yes, I know - I was being 'tongue in cheek'/ facetious....
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15th December 2022, 07:29
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Imagine them following the M-Sport template; a...
Imagine them following the M-Sport template; a small budget, very little testing, one decent driver and a slow pay driver........
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9th December 2022, 16:58
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Yes; I think it was more a case of Red Bull...
Yes; I think it was more a case of Red Bull athletes driving the M-Sport cars, with minimal funding. I suspect it covered the Breen car, as he isn't part of RB; Loeb, Fourmaux are both RB athletes;...
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16th January 2022, 10:09
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Maybe Breen has become a Red Bull athlete? Though...
Maybe Breen has become a Red Bull athlete? Though I haven't seen anything to announce it. Off the top of my head, I can't recall too many Irish RB athletes, but I'd have to look it up.
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14th July 2021, 14:17
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Sounds familiar; continued, and maybe improved...
Sounds familiar; continued, and maybe improved support, but not the 'kitchen sink'. If they require any pay drivers, then it's not a full factory effort! What will it take for them to fully back...
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13th July 2021, 18:35
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I doubt the Red Bull personal sponsorship is...
I doubt the Red Bull personal sponsorship is particularly big in money terms; he's hardly one of their major stars (well not yet). A coveted RB helmet and other support, rather than budget.
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10th July 2021, 13:38
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Since when has rallying been the most prestigious...
Since when has rallying been the most prestigious form of motorsport? And can only attract 3 manufacturers..... Don't you just love PR??
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6th July 2021, 19:17
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Hmm, with the greatest of respect, that doesn't...
Hmm, with the greatest of respect, that doesn't fill me with massive hope/confidence. I doubt Toyota or Hyundai are worried about them come next year. No winners - some flashes of speed but lots of...
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25th February 2021, 19:22
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I get the feeling this is Red Bull backing an up...
I get the feeling this is Red Bull backing an up and coming driver - adding to their athlete programme; rather than team sponsorship. Like 2017 Ogier had Red Bull livery, Tanak didn't as he wasn't/...
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2nd February 2021, 18:42
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Ford have had ample opportunity to fully back...
Ford have had ample opportunity to fully back M-Sport - I'm sure some of the big bosses were at Monte in 2017, and seemed impressed. But not enough to provide full backing. Nascar and the IMSA/WEC...
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1st February 2021, 13:54
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Exactly! All these comments, and expert opinions...
Exactly! All these comments, and expert opinions never ask why M-Sport require 'pay drivers' and why we only have 2 proper Manufacturers. And will it be any better with the new rules?
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22nd December 2020, 09:29
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It depends on what 'commitment' is defined by. ...
It depends on what 'commitment' is defined by.
Full factory support, both financially and technically, enabling top drivers = Commitment.
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16th December 2020, 14:10
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It shouldn't be a surprise though........The...
It shouldn't be a surprise though........The sport isn't visible enough for sponsors. Far easier to sponsor a football team/ tournament....
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16th December 2020, 13:43
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That's 3-4 years ago. What about now?
That's 3-4 years ago. What about now?
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16th December 2020, 10:14
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What is pretty substantial? If it was, they could...
What is pretty substantial? If it was, they could afford testing, top drivers, etc
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14th January 2020, 11:31
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Well, there is a simple answer - but probably not...
Well, there is a simple answer - but probably not popular on a motorsport/ rally forum.....
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9th January 2020, 09:55
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It's a fair point - but they obviously 'cut their...
It's a fair point - but they obviously 'cut their cloth' accordingly; they are a well run team and make the most of everything they have. A larger budget is always going to help, especially in...
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