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Oooohhhh he has many choices, like in past several years. He didn't seem so determined to return in WRC even half way, but now he does more events with hyundai than ever with citroen after '12. That...

I don't know. I personal would like to think out-of-the-box, money aside, when Loeb was asked who would drive for next year, if drive at all, his answer was straight when pointed his overalls. What...

So why didn't citroen paid it. Surely they can afford a few millions?!?

I don't think that's the exact word, it comes from Hindi I think and in Hinduism they believe in afterlife and rebirth. Close enough if we think in the aspect of a life in a team.

So once upon a time Loeb kicked out Ogier from citroen. now it's the opposite:smokin:

They are NOT in the same team.

It's not easy for me, sorry. To the point anyway - shall we;)

And btw if You want people to understand You in the common language, it's the effort You should take on Your own, if english is so...

You don't try lo lower my IQ, do You? Where is that trouncing? Loeb has more better stage times for the stages they completed together (with less ambitions in rally2).

In general this is far, far...

No, I'm kidding, I meant chinese, sorry.

Can You translate that in english please?

May be, but consider a perspective for Lappi to be N1 in a team?!?

I'm not trolling, just little bored of the endless Loeb vs Ogier discussion. I'm not a fan of either, but it's getting tedious, honestly. History is history, statistics is statistics, a medium level...

Yes this is the one, thanks.

I never said he is the best since 2008, don't quote me wrong.



Yes, and why we're still discussing Ogier in this topic?

But we're discussing rally drivers, I'm not one.

EDIT: But if You're so curious about my Mathematics skills, ask the company I'm working for, as obviously You discredit all the university...

And You're rally fan for how many years?

I don't think so. I have university degree in Mathematics. I skipped only the first year when I was studying Physics and Mathematics.

Yes, You're right, last 10 years or so he is the best driver around, soon this might change, but probably not.

You are as crazy as the Russian. But I like Your way of thinking. Give this man a WR car, I'm afraid he might fall asleep at some stage in this year ER championship.

I must have missed that. What was it about? Which penalty?

Ah I see, I wasn't aware of such statistics, however this is somewhat pointless as the first "real" stage is more like a warm-up (see Neuville for example - he had some really bad 1st days this year,...

"Still" ?!?

Yeah, he is so unsure of the situation. Might be just the owner's management.

How so? I though they had this year for "just some wins/podiums" (which they already had) and go a full campaign in 2018? Something makes me think it was just a mind game (Meeke going for it every...

Ogier?