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What is so ironic is that none of you understand that M-Sport were only looking for some fairness in Sweden after the joke snow sweeping (and Historics) preventing any chance of points.

In Mexico...

If everyone is happy that Tanak and Neuville did the right thing in Mexico PS then I give up.

Fairness and justification obviously mean nothing.

And you're a Greek so nothing is possible... just endless miserable cynicism

Ogier & MSport didnt break the rules they used the rules to partly overcome a huge disadvantage.

Tanak & Neuville and their teams just copied even though they had no excuse or disadvantage.

No, but seriously... you cant use a car failure as an excuse to bend the rules.

If someone drives perfectly and does every stage and its for no reward, then they have bit more leeway IMO.

OK all you geniuses... if not a Power Stage how else can they prevent the Sunday from generally being a cruise snooze and the cars that retired not even running ?

Totally different. A car failure happens, but the rules of a rally are a decision. And Tanak's driving could also have caused his engine problem...

The FIA are going to stop it now:...

This whole issue could have started and ended in Sweden.

If the other Teams had accepted that Ogier/M-Sport's action was a one-off due to their desperation to get some points on a rally where...

Ogier may have started it but he had good reason as Sweden was an exceptional rally. But the others now doing it on a normal rally (and even worse from Rally 2), THAT is ridiculous.

Ogier did the full rally in Sweden, Tanak did not in Mexico.

Ogier was chronically disadvantaged by road clearing and Historics in Sweden. Tanak' s car broke in Mexico.

If Ogier was under...

Good point.

Idea: If Rally2 driver's are to get extra points they should compete against each other for a seperate award on the PS, not take main PS points off those doing the full rally...

I'm disappointed this Ogier penalty has also overshadowed Tanak's late PS entry to gain an advantage when he was already a Rally2 runner. No way should this be allowed.

(In fact I dont think...

https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/134787/ogier-gets-mexico-penalty-msport-appealing

This.

Thats what I mean... driver's take every cut and advantage they can, those crappy barriers were asking to be clipped.

We've seen loads of driver's nudging and even fully hitting straw bail chicanes over the years and no penalties have been applied.

Why cant Ogier just say he mis-judged his speed and hit the...

Ogier: "I'm also very pleased because I think we improved a lot since last year, the car seems faster on gravel. Together with Ford our engineers have done a good job to prepare this rally, at high...

In Sweden Ogier had an excuse to try to get consolation PS points... here Rally2 Tanak was taking the piss.

Rally2 runner gaining advantage... even worse.

Ha, showing Ogier cruising home not the last two.

Nice run Seb O. :)

Seems PS live on BT Sport Xtra.

But is the road order really going to have a big effect here when the whole field have just been through the stage ? I think Latvala is just annoyed he is not the star here.

Watching SS21 live on BT Sport but I dont see the PS listed on any of their channels ??

I dont think Rally2 driver's should get any sort of advantage on the PS.

Those that have done the full rally should get the best chance for the extra points.