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Those cars are now called Rally2+KIT

So far 0 starts in ERC, I don´t make rules but I´m pretty sure that N and R-GT are also allowed in ERC2 for 2021

You are always wanting new things before we even have reserved old ones :)

5 classes is enough, try to forget all others.

R2 4wd is not coming 2020.

I´m glad that everyone so far has chosen different models than we had in R5.

I know that Fabia and Fiesta will come sooner or later.

Riku Tahko is thinking new BMW 1-series next.

Riku Tahko is "building" new MINI R4
body will be made in Poland (is there others than Dytko?) and tecnical assembly in Finland.
Car is up for rent in 2019 and Tahko himself will drive with it 2020...

It´s NOT R4

It has mitsu/subaru engine.

Class name is different in each country, R-Lite in Finland.

There is that kind of Dytko Micra in Finland also.

and most of R4 cars will be outside Europe. Vere unknown results.

In Finland R4 compete in same class with "N4" beginning 2019. (we have 2 different classes for 4wd)

R4 is probably faster but same thing was when S2000 replaced "N4" and again when R5 replaced...

Remember that Toyota has said: We will make R2 and R5.

In Finnish championship R4 was not allowed 2018, main reason is/was that no one did know speed of R4, does it belong to same class with "R5" or with "N4". Own class is not option because minimum 10...

Fiesta bad (we don´t need R1,R2,R4 and R5 from same car)

Dacia yes please !

Is it higher than quite good Suzuki Ignis S1600 was ?

(I know different era and different car type)

Looks very high to me too.

Problem for N4 (and old R4) was/is that there is only 2 brands Mitsu and Subaru. Others were also homologated but 99,9% did choose 2.

85.000€ for those stuff in picture ?
Pure robbery :(

There is seperate thread for those Proto/Dytko/selfbuilt/R-Lite etc. cars

Please use it and let´s keep this one only R4

Makes things way more easier, because many people don´t know diffrence...

Oren only sells KIT´s, every team does building themselves. I don´t know how many KIT´s have been sold.

TGR has over 80 different Toyota´s in- and outside their facilities, they have studied all possible combinations. Now it seems that R2 is next one.

Toyota Etios is not on sale in Europe, so nothing to do with TGR or TMG either.

and national series can have different classes, like in Finland where we have 2 championship classes for 4wd cars.

R2 and R3 are not classes, they are car types. R3 cars are not all old (Toyota GT86 and Renault Clio both still in production)

R4 should be in RC2 because N4, NR4 (Mitsubishi´s and Subaru´s) are...

For pics it was 20 messages if I remember correctly.

You can enter WRC event with national car but can´t score points with it.
First it was only allowed for non euro events (longhaul) but now each rally can take national cars if they want. (Corsica...

Impreza?

it´s just Subaru WRX STI

current impreza is boring 5-door car with 1.6 non turbo engine.