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The truly "safe" places are hundreds of feet back, farther than what anyone would consider necessary today. Key word being today.

As for "stupid" places, is it "stupid" to be 3-4 feet away from...

I mean, either they were extremely improbably lucky for several years, or the danger was slightly overstated. When you hear Group B talked about these days, they make it sound like someone was dying...

First of all, you're claiming, again, a binary distinction between a 'stupid' place to stand and a 'not stupid' place to stand. I don't think that is really accurate. Some people are willing to...

You people are PRETENDING that there is such a thing as a 'safe' place to stand vs an 'unsafe' place, as if it's a completely binary distinction. That's ludicrous. You know as well as I do that some...

This guy is such a bullshitter. He's shocked! Shocked, I say! By spectator behavior that was considered extremely tame just a decade ago. Like honestly, give me a break.

Kicking Poland out of the...

I mean, that's one lunatic fire truck driver. I'm not sure how the rally organizers could have reasonably predicted and avoided that situation. Seems like it could happen anywhere, given a...

But what is driving the trend in the perception of cars and motorsport? Well, one thing is probably super boring car design since the mid 2000s. But as far as the perception of motorsport, maybe kids...

First off I just want to apologize again for the salty language earlier. That was not on.

As for the actual safety issues and the future of rallying, I think that it's a mistake to sacrifice the...

30 in a few days. I do apologize for some of the language in that post, reading it back now. I was pretty riled up about something entirely unrelated. I stand by the main points, though.

Cool, cool. So no argument, no logic, just subtle digs. And you will win the debate, because your opinion is extremely popular. Safety is the most important thing, right? "There can be no compromise...

No, Group B was banned because of knee-jerk overreaction by some FISA bureaucrats to a couple of deaths. And that's what bureaucrats do after all deaths, because their job as they see it is to cover...

Okay, you would literally prefer to have another rally driver growing old somewhere than have all the memories of Group B. Okay.

Your same kind of person would rather have a bunch of no names...

I disagree. This is the first rally in a long time where the images made me think, "Yes, it would be really enjoyable to be there." Not even in all areas. There were some parts where the spectators...

Sigh. What was a 4-way title fight is now a 2-way fight, with a big chunk of the season still to go. Unless maybe Neuville and Ogier crash into each other on the road section. Could happen!

Jesus, how is that possible?