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At a given race the top 20 are race winners/race winning pedigree, that's how competitive the series has become.

In F1 you have to be in one of the top 2 teams in a given season to definitely win...

Here, here

Rubens 'Blah, blah, blah' Barrichello - isn't he supposed to be F1's nice guys?

At least JPM is a heck of a race car driver.

You could do worse:

Danica Patrick playing Princess...

Care to elaborate?

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Ranulph Fiennes?

Would love to have Texaco/Havoline livery back again. The Man in Black :cool:



Had he had Jr's seat at Hendrick JPM probably would've done a better job!

Another top 5 finish! :D

Also worth pointing out is that Mark Martin is a pioneer of physical training in the world of NASCAR. He's in damn better physical condition than the some of the young 'uns who are at their peak.

Mark Martin is one the greatest drivers never to win the championship.

Can't wait for Talladega.

He jumped from top 30 machinery all the way to top 5 with DEI know how for plate races.

The Ferrari engineers were telling Vale how to drive an F1 car and then Vale sulked like a baby which is why he went back to MotoGP.

Just exacty who did he beat in the IRL?

Markabilly has his own opinions and I respect them enough for it to contribute to an enjoyable discussion without having to take cheapshots.

Errr... that was the point I originally made. We're in the era of specialisation but JPM has shown talent to be competitive in any race car which was my original point.

Doing it and hopping off...

Different era, we're now in the multi-car team era.

JPM had top 30 car in plate races with Ganassi, now a top 5 car thanks to DEI.

2nd at 2007 Brickyard 400, could've won the race with another...

Andretti and Clark had different upbringings.

Had Clark been born in the USA then undoubtedly he would've digged the oval racing scene and had Andretti family emigrated to England he probably...

That's your opinion that I disagree with and vice versa

Clark was Euro-centric. Clark did Indy because of Chapman's ambitions and the money. He only did one NASCAR race at Rockingham, IIRC.

Andretti won WDC in the dominant car cf. JPM/Williams were up...

What JPM represents is that in this day and age of specialisation he emulates Clark, Andretti, Gurney et al by jumping into a race car, any race car and still be, at the very least, be competitive...