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    (don't know precisely how long WRC+ has had...

    (don't know precisely how long WRC+ has had onboards but for sure from at least mid 2016)


    Now before start of Australia Breen was saying on press conference how he has never been there before...
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    Tbh that would fit into "Ford returning" scenario...

    Tbh that would fit into "Ford returning" scenario which will likely happen on some media event.
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    Thing is... it probably would have been very...

    Thing is... it probably would have been very competitive for at least first half of 2017. Probably only the Hyundai would have been there with it.

    Toyota was slow/unreliable until Poland/Finland....
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    - Hope Tanak doesn't end like Martin and Duval...

    - Hope Tanak doesn't end like Martin and Duval after switching teams

    - now if Ogier stays Citroen has a problem... if he leaves M-Sport has a problem


    => So overall not very happy about this...
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    Plenty of onboards on WRC+ (promo code is in the...

    Plenty of onboards on WRC+ (promo code is in the other thread), Tanak vs Sordo comparison was even in the daily highlights.

    Even though it looks similar there can off course also be differences...
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    Yeah I do wonder why ESTR has to go deep into the...

    Yeah I do wonder why ESTR has to go deep into the cuts ;)

    Watch a few onboards from spain, everyone took cuts, specially in the one that cost Sordo and Mikkelsen their wheels. Every single one of...
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    Yes and no. The basic principle is true, higher...

    Yes and no. The basic principle is true, higher combustion temperatures = more NOX. However, there is no real reason that AdBlue tanks need to be (fixed) small size and refilled over 20k km or so....
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    I am not talking about champ. points. I am...

    I am not talking about champ. points. I am talking about event vs event results.
    Ex. Germany
    2016 Ogier and Mikkelsen close to each other on Friday, then Ogier pulled away and Mikkelsen barely lost...
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    Overall it still looked a bit faster, but in a...

    Overall it still looked a bit faster, but in a similar way the Hyundai looked a bit faster this year (until Finland). Anyway that's not the main point.

    IF you look at VW drivers results last year...
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    That it was not just the car at VW was clear...

    That it was not just the car at VW was clear after Monte (in both WRC and R5) and Sweden in (WRC) were won by ex. VW drivers.

    Hence why I claim that if it wasn't Mikkelsen replacing drivers and...
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    I would blame this part combined with the VW exit...

    I would blame this part combined with the VW exit getting known after all drivers had signed.

    Even if you don't like Mikkelsen you have to admit he is among the top 6 drivers with best results for...
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    Well imagine the insane risk Matton would be...

    Well imagine the insane risk Matton would be taking by not "keeping" Mikkelsen if he wasn't very sure about getting Ogier. Tanak certainly won't go to Citroen and no other driver consistently faster...
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    Totally undeserved. Clearly when there is an...

    Totally undeserved.

    Clearly when there is an extra driver and they bench Paddon for Catalunya it's likely someone gets benched in the other events. That's all he said.

    More exactly:
    "Just to...
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    From autosport article on Mikkelsen at Hyundai: ...

    From autosport article on Mikkelsen at Hyundai:

    "Hyundai has remained tight-lipped on next season, but Autosport's sources have confirmed Mikkelsen is expected to tackle a full season along with...
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    While I agree that for some reason Tommi does not...

    While I agree that for some reason Tommi does not rate Mikkelsen high, I think it's just about impossible that Citroen didn't sign Mikkelsen without signing Ogier already.

    The only option would be...
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    Seems like done deal yes. So the only...

    Seems like done deal yes.

    So the only remaining big question for me is whether Tanak will stay at M-Sport as main driver or go to Toyota.

    For championship sake I hope he stays.
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    Yes smells a lot like Ogier to Citroen with Meeke...

    Yes smells a lot like Ogier to Citroen with Meeke as second.
    Mikkelsen to Hyundai.

    BUT it could be that both Meeke (at Citroen) and Mikkelsen (at Hyundai) have 1-2 rallies to prove if they will...
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    Not saying it always works, but for example...

    Not saying it always works, but for example Mikkelsen focused quite a lot on tarmac when he was 17-18 and now he is able to fight in the top on tarmac. Think JML also did some tarmac at that age.
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    Wonder what kind of program he will have and if...

    Wonder what kind of program he will have and if he really only plans to do rallycross.

    In any case it is very likely he will get some tarmac/circuit training which is only positive. Way too many...
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    I do wonder how it will look like. So far this...

    I do wonder how it will look like. So far this season Neuville has had quite a lot of close-calls and rarely got punished for them, most notably 2 big ones in Argentina. First run of power stage in...
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    Poland got yellow card in 2016... then in 2017...

    Poland got yellow card in 2016... then in 2017 you got 1 stage cancelled and lot's of people in bad places even in the official broadcasts.
    Clearly when other candidate events are available they had...
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    True, but even if he knew I don't think he would...

    True, but even if he knew I don't think he would tell outright.
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    Clark kitchen table:...

    Clark kitchen table:
    https://www.facebook.com/voiceofrally/videos/806365079526157/

    Nothing really new, mostly same points as people have here.
    Specifically:
    - sees Tanak as Ogier's wingman for...
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    Wasn't it just meant as irony? Which sane person...

    Wasn't it just meant as irony?
    Which sane person flies Germany-GB in business class?
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    Nominate him instead of Paddon for Spain and...

    Nominate him instead of Paddon for Spain and instead of Sordo for GB and Australia?
    (Paddon/Sordo would still drive but as 4th car)

    Interesting idea, I somehow doubt it though.

    EDIT:
    Mostly...
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