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That'd be a good thing? The space frames have only made the sport more irrelevant, in my perception.

Was that just an offer of a full time drive or were they going to pay him the going rate of a Driver too? I thought Andreas was keen to be paid the market rate to do his job, which no doubt Hyundai...

They don't really. I think we should see it as a subsidy for the team from the Promoter, alongside the Ford connection. It's sensible, though I'd like to think they could have provided enough to pay...

Maybe this comment on this thread was considered "the English media"...? :D

I think you're overlooking that Red Bull are the Promoter of WRC, so should have a vested interest in ensuring that M-Sport are a somewhat serious third team/manufacturer. If they're going to channel...

I suggest any rally fan who is able to forget M-Sport's tale of hardship should head down to their Doctor and get their Alzheimer's diagnosed...

Better that than arguably being the case for all their drivers for the last couple of years, other than Loeb, who was very much a part timer...

I imagine he's confirming that Red Bull really weren't putting in much money to the team.


Regarding the morality of the Ford funding increase. As I think I've said before, without the likes of a...

To be fair, this speaks positively of the Puma and really is probably more relevant to NASCAR and Aussie Supercars.

It's a British speciality to hide even national rallies from anyone interested, I think they could manage a secret test here...

Macebig IS Jon Desborough, confirmed! :D

Quoted from the Barum thread...



Also, if M-Sport is still in the WRC to theoretically sell Rally2/3/4s to customers, having Breen on the team might actually encourage a few more cars sales in...

I wonder how much smoke and mirrors there'll be, with what could look like extra financial support from Ford actually being M-Sport just being in a better financial position itself this year, with...

I could imagine it's a little bit more than most of the 'Red Bull Athletes', just because of how prominent it is compared to all those who seem to only have the helmet and free drinks supply deal,...

They could easily avoid that situation.

I would assume there's no great change to the relationship between Ford and M-Sport then, but time will tell. Here's hoping Red Bull give them a boost to level them up with the other two manufacturer...

They had their chance... I'd love to see Monster come in properly and give Red Bull a kick up the arse.

Given how much money Red Bull pour into its two F1 teams and single seater juniors, it'd be fantastic if M-Sport could become a full Red Bull team in 2022. While I don't know why that wouldn't have...

I'm aware that in practice there isn't. Yet Crown Oil always previously appeared in place of Castrol on Greensmith's car and no longer seems to appear at all...

So are you suggesting the family no...

Just been thinking this weekend, Castrol/BP mustn't be an insignificant sponsor/financial contributor to the team, as Gus' dad's (presumably) millions weren't enough to displace Castrol stickers with...

I think we can probably cross JML off the list of potential candidates for an M-Sport drive now...

Though stranger things have happened, like JML becoming Toyota team principle in the first place!...

This is the one thing that I'd love to know. To what extent M-Sport have tried to attract major sponsors themselves rather than relying on drivers to do it for them. As said before, there would seem...

Is anybody else worried that we might not see a full M-Sport RC1 team program in 2021? Lappi isn't paying. FFSA aren't interested in Rally1 yet. Mr Jouhki probably won't be able to see a return on...

Basically asked what he'll be doing next year by Colin Clark (in a video), talked a bit about learning rallies, said amongst other things, iirc, "for sure in a R5".

Happy to be corrected though.

It makes sense to me, but Malcolm has had years to capitalise on the possible Monster link and has failed to do so. It'd be interesting to know if they've ever made much effort to make that link up. ...