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    That maximum (22k) would be with a V10, which...

    That maximum (22k) would be with a V10, which probably would actually be a little higher. The smaller V8 however, could lend it self to higher RPM's, but I too doubt they could hit 30k.
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    The rules do appear a little biased. The freedoms...

    The rules do appear a little biased. The freedoms they provide come at a cost, making them less "free".
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    I think it's a stretch to expect Ferrari on the...

    I think it's a stretch to expect Ferrari on the podium in the next round. RBR, Toyota and Brawn are pretty damn fast cars, followed by Mclaren and then Ferrari. I expect the gap to shrink, but Vet,...
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    In that case it would be a 2 class formula by...

    In that case it would be a 2 class formula by choice, not rules. I don't see a problem with that. It happens all the time, but isn't as apparent as a missing KERS.

    Tire ovens, double decker...
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    Redbull have developed extremely well. I think...

    Redbull have developed extremely well. I think they have the edge on Brawn, but only by a hair, the entire field is so tight. Mclaren and Toyota seem to be making steady progress, followed by...
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    How does that differ from body work differences...

    How does that differ from body work differences from track to track to accommodate cooling requirements. Differing front and rear wings based on what event they are at.

    I don't know what all the...
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    The only way to increase air intake is to drive...

    The only way to increase air intake is to drive faster.

    This is a passive systems after all. There are no mechanical air extractors sucking air, ala late '70s Brabham fan cars....
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    Some very interesting points from the FIA hearing...

    Some very interesting points from the FIA hearing last week:

    [quote="http://www.fia.com/en-GB/the-fia/court_appeal/judgments/Documents/ICA-14-04-2009-a.pdf"]

    Third Plea &#8211]

    So I'm OK...
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    That's understood, however it's not what we are...

    That's understood, however it's not what we are discussing here.

    Comparing the regular diffuser to the DDD is the question. And for a car going the same speed the amount of air available to go...
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    :) You can accelerate the constant air (governed...

    :) You can accelerate the constant air (governed by the speed of the car). Keep the amount air flow per second the same, then the pressure has to drop. That's how the whole system works. If you could...
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    More air actually would not generate more...

    More air actually would not generate more downforce. If true the low pressure due to increased velocity would be negated by the fact that more air is being sucked in.

    The only way you are going...
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    The amount that's available.

    The amount that's available.
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    A bigger diffuser causes increases the rate of...

    A bigger diffuser causes increases the rate of air extraction, creating a larger differential in pressure. That differential happens at the throat, but the total amount of air is relatively constant....
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    Classic :) Nice job. Good links!

    Classic :)

    Nice job. Good links!
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    "More turbulence" than what? a smaller less...

    "More turbulence" than what? a smaller less efficient diffuser? To that point the way the rear suspension geomtry is designed, the exhaust system, the gear box, the wing, the brake ducts, the...
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    Wedge is actually right. The diffuser pulls the...

    Wedge is actually right. The diffuser pulls the air from underneath the car, accelerating the flow underneath the car. Once it expands in the diffuser and exits it is moving slower than the air under...
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    It's has been even longer for me since thermo and...

    It's has been even longer for me since thermo and fluid dynamics, but diffusers, ground effects and wings all work of the same principle. The Bernoulli effect. They both change the speed of the fluid...
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    How profound. Now take it one step further and...

    How profound. Now take it one step further and explain to all of us how the materially will impact the overtaking ability today.



    Let's not assume that the FIA "ripped off" 2 teams. This is...
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    Stewards are race officials. Charlie Whiting and...

    Stewards are race officials. Charlie Whiting and his crew were the ones that told the teams their designs were illegal, not the stewards. It wasn't until Australia that the Stewards first ruled on...
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    PICKEM:86376,jjanicke,J Button,R Barrichello,J...

    PICKEM:86376,jjanicke,J Button,R Barrichello,J Trulli,S Vettel,T Glock,M Webber,K Raikkonen,L Hamilton
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    If it were only that innocent.

    If it were only that innocent.
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    Kind of a dumb question, but according to the FIA...

    Kind of a dumb question, but according to the FIA their differences aren't enough to make any one of the 3 illegal. The same can't be said for the differences of RBR and Renault DD proposals.


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    I would only suggest not confusing "similar" with...

    I would only suggest not confusing "similar" with "the same".
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    Could you demonstrate some proof of these "other...

    Could you demonstrate some proof of these "other teams"?

    BrawnGP approached the FIA well over a year ago. How long ago did these "other teams" approach the FIA?
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    So apparently you did and can make the conclusion...

    So apparently you did and can make the conclusion that they are the same.

    Don't make me laugh.



    agreed!
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