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This is the detail that is confusing people. A WRC Team and a WRC Manufacturer is not the same thing. All of MSport Ford, Toyota and Hyundai are manufacturers this year so they get 21 days and are...

that's amazing, Toyota clearly have something the others don't!

Yea? Then I say Ott and Thierry will rent '17 Fiesta from Malcolm.

Yes it's fun to speculate. I don't know where Wuorela is getting his info but I'm not buying it at the moment. It seems more like Tanak has given up on this year and wants to focus on the next...

Self criticism is dangerous. It's good they are trying to be objective with themselves and improve but it's possible to fall into a trap where the constant criticism prevents you from getting the...

Cool stuff what MSport are doing, I guess this is part of their campaign to get a backer.

Looking at this video, especially the first part the "body language" of the Ford looks good. I think potentially the Ford, Citroen and Hyundai will be close. Surely some will have advantages and...

You are right of course about frontal area. If a car needs to punch a bigger hole through the air it will have more drag. I was just pointing out that it's not the only factor. You also mention some...

This is a more complex subject as far as I know. Look at LMP1 cars in recent times, there was a shift to more vertical front edges while also trying to control how air moves through and around the...

he did fine with 3 gears on that one stage... :P

I was thinking the same thing, Citroen may be advantaged by the early testing of the "basic" parts. It reminds me of the 'negative' example of Seat who had a badly balanced base that they tried to...

Seems that even on tarmac the new cars slide even with the extra downforce. On both gravel and tarmac it's not a "throw the car sideways" type of driving but there's more powersliding on the exit. I...

The biggest difference at the front seems to be the diveplanes (below the headlights). As far as I know that's an important element to provide a fair amount of downforce for not so much extra drag....

Maybe Tanak + Camilli + DMACK for M-Sport main team next year (just spouting nonsense :P)

just to add my 2c: speed is only a part of the equation; yes a fast car is better than a slow car, speed is impressive. However it also matters how that car behaves, if it is like on rails it's less...

nice video. not sure if it's because of the rough surface but the car didn't look as boring on tarmac as some of us are expecting.

Heheh, this post "broke" the forum! :D

We've had Pentti Airikkala and Antony Warmbold post here before, but I guess this time it's more exciting because it's about something going on right now...

Looking at that video made me think about aerodynamics a bit. You know how VW have that huge front splitter? Notice Citroen doesn't but on the jumps the front hangs in the air a lot, regardless of...

In the 2nd part of the video I think he's in the current car not the 2017 version. It was a mixed test for Sardinia and the new car.

I was fearing the same could happen for gravel. But yeah on asphalt the cars are closer to circuit racers now. Maybe they should change the tyre rules and/or impose minimum ride height and maximum...

Watching more and more videos of the 2017 cars, so far at least they don't seem as on rails as people were fearing. In fact the extra power may allow a more slidey style than current cars.

Yeah, that looks better to me as well. I'm more optimistic that we will have an interesting fight this season.

Frankly I haven't noticed anything, or more exactly I can't tell how fast the car is from looking. But I would follow the discussion with interest.

EDIT: only thing i did notice is the i20 body...

I agree, Camilli seemed at home in the WRC.

VW - business as usual.
Hyundai - hard to say, SWE test looked good. I think how interesting this season is depends on how close their new car is to...