For me it's the ugliest of all current cars.
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For me it's the ugliest of all current cars.
Personally I think it looks great; interesting this morning for them to confirm the Yaris and to not mention hybrids, which bodes well for 2017 in my book.
If you don't like the look of the current one, I wouldn't worry too much; they'll have a new model out by then I would think.
Does a more little car have differences in performance than a bigger one? (speaking about car of the same group of course)
2 years is far far away... many things can be different by then, it is good another serious car manufacturer joins the sport.
Still very closely based on the one used in South Africa. http://www.rallyworld.net/images/mor...11/big/123.JPG
VW's welcome video to Toyota: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd76...ature=youtu.be
Lol @ Luis Moya.
this is the first of the new generation rally cars where I like the road car more than the bodykit. when saying "like" I mean I can survive 0,7 seconds more before I move my eyes to wherever else.
Anyway, more manufacturers is always better for the sport.
As I see it there are two possible ways there can be a positive outcome from this. I mean purely in terms of the form of the car, the fact that they are back is positive and that is not in question.
a) The 2017 rules will call for larger cars. Whatever model it is, something that is bigger than the current Yaris will be an improvement. As I recall Toyota had to get special dispensation from the FIA in order to use this current Yaris under the current rules, but I don't quite remember as it was about the time of the Wall Street crash that this thread started.
But unlikely to be anything other than a Yaris otherwise why would they have launched their return with the Yaris and said that they will return with the Yaris if it turned out to be the Auris/Corolla/GT86/Prius/Land Cruiser or whatever other options they have....
b) By the time they make their return surely this generation of Yaris will be replaced and hopefully by a much better looking, larger model. Given that it is smaller than it's main rivals and they also sell the Aygo there must be justification for the Yaris MkIV to be a much bigger car? This is the more likely outcome as no one directly involved in the WRC seems to recognise what is actually wrong with the sport - not a lot in my opinion but these shopping trolley technical regs are a big part of it!
You bother too much with stupid things like how the car looks ects...
if the car is competitive we are going to like it.
Sarrazin behind the wheel...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117508
Full Toyota press conference replay: WRC info from 16:40 on ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh280JVaakY&app=desktop
Remember the car pictured on the launch appears to be in gravel spec. The car, like all rally cars, will look much better lowered in tarmac spec. Check the test videos to see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy59rYU85kU
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/O5dfCJcMFfg/maxresdefault.jpg
Doubt about the cars...
"2017 WRC plans" are to have "segment-D cars only" or current segment-B and segment-D cars together?
I know the big picture is all about competition, speed and bigger marketing...but It would be weird to watch "Nascar" cars racing WRC, like Toyota's Camry or VW's Passat =P
Ugly, not ugly, what of it. It's great a Japan manufacturer returns to WRC, especially Toyota. WRC cars are not beauty contest anyway, if it was so, they'd be bigger.
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...cbfd329b59.jpg
I quite like it from that angle. I'm sure it will change a lot untill 2017.
Your beloved Skoda's didnt always look so pretty either... ;)
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2c2oxDWeSVw/maxresdefault.jpg
http://www.ianhardy.net/gallery/main..._2004_0435.jpg
This wasn't great either...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lkgQUGeBZ_...s1600/bku2.jpg
Brilliant for the WRC to have such a major manufacturer involved again!
Can we take it that as they have announced the Yaris that the 2017 regulations will be very close to what we have now?
Honestly any works WRC is beautiful to me. I'd take a field full of ugly WRCs if we get great action and competition.
And I actually have a soft spot for that Lancer above. There was one running at Rally GB in the national event recently. Very distinctive.
I liked that Lancer WRC, quite 'odd' looking, but it looks like a Rally car, and sounded quite different. I also thought the Lancer III & VI were the nicest looking of the Lancers - and all had that 'Mitsubishi' sound.
Anyway, they have 2 seasons of testing & development before entering. VW used 2012 as a test, while also using the Fabia S2000 ....Should they build a R5 version, and use it on selected WRC, ERC, etc events. Or will they just rock up at Monte (provided Monte is the 1st round...) in 2017 with a brand new car? It's going to be interesting.
Did Toyota reveal if they will be doing selected events in 2016 ?
'EDIT: 'It remains possible the Yaris could run in the 2016 WRC, but a more likely scenario would be delivering the car to coincide with the new technical regulations in 2017.'
About ugly cars, do we all forget about 307? It's always good to see new manufacture and imo it's not that bad.
Who care if it's ugly?
It has to be a proper rally car that can challenge VW. The rest are details.
When we're talking about a spectator sport I don't see how anyone could not care if it's ugly. Aesthetics are very much an important part of the appeal of a sport like this.
If WRC turned into a championship made up entirely of dull rallies with a lack of exciting corners/stretches of road, ugly cars that have shrunk way too much in recent years and that sounded worse than most road cars then simply the closeness of times on a leaderboard would not be enough to keep me interested - that's even if close competition and unpredictable championship battles could be guaranteed.
The WRC is supposed to be the pinnacle of world rallying and as such should be fought out by cars you and me can only dream of - not the car that grandma drives to the supermarket with a silly bodykit bolted on to it. Of course we can't expect 911s, Ferraris, Lotus Exiges, Nissan GTRs etc to be the cars competing for the overall WRC crown as it is still a championship for regular road car manufacturers. But touring car racing doesn't have to suffer the same drudgery that appears in the WRC - just look at the BTCC, WTCC and V8 Supercars, they're cracking motors!
For all of F1s ills they do at least seem to do things about poor aesthetics. They got rid of those stepped noses, having made do with the vanity panels for a while - admittedly it backfired with the noses from last year that looked like sex toys but it was rectified as soon as possible. Now they're talking about silly power outputs to keep fans interested. Then there's the WEC - it's got manufacturers interested because of the freedom they have to develop widely different hybrid systems. Plus fans are interested because they already have silly power outputs and there's a great variety in powerplants - Porsche V4 turbo, Audi V6 TDI, Toyota V8... And what has the WRC got going for it? Quite large wheel arches... Oh and those rear wings are unnecessarily large too...
My grandma goes to the supermarket with a i20, my father could have a Polo, my mother could have a DS3. So I don't understand why Yaris could not be amongst them.
By the way, I understand what you want to say. But if I have to choose between closeness of times and a beautiful car to watch I choose the first, and I think you too. Aesthetic can be somehow "important", or at least something to be interested in... But there are museums if you want to admire forms and shapes. Rally is about speed, performances and reliability of a car in a first istance. Aesthetics come after.