Peter Windsor

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18th February 2011, 13:39
wedge

Peter Windsor

http://www.smibs.tv/the-flying-lap?page=1
18th February 2011, 14:21
gloomyDAY

Hide the children! He's back. :vampire:
18th February 2011, 14:23
ArrowsFA1

The shows I've seen so far have been pretty good.
19th February 2011, 02:24
truefan72

is he paying them to do this show?

all I have to say is USF1 and all the ill feelings return instantly
19th February 2011, 02:36
Tazio

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Originally Posted by truefan72

is he paying them to do this show?

all I have to say is USF1 and all the ill feelings return instantly

Indeed!
I still maintain Speed was complicit in that sham! :hmph:
19th February 2011, 03:13
Mr. Mister

I know everyone wants to blame Peter Windsor for the US F1 saga, but it was very much Ken Anderson's micromanagement and general inability that led the team to ruin. Windsor was very much disconnected from the team (and his comments show it; he wasn't lying, he genuinely thought things were going well because, well, he didn't know what was really happening). If you talk to the people within the team, they'll say Windsor was something of a figure-head but didn't have a large enough involvement to know what was going on, while Anderson and his son were to blame for destroying the project.
19th February 2011, 03:44
mstillhere

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Originally Posted by truefan72

is he paying them to do this show?

all I have to say is USF1 and all the ill feelings return instantly

S....t I just had a panic attack!!!
19th February 2011, 03:45
mstillhere

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Originally Posted by Mr. Mister

I know everyone wants to blame Peter Windsor for the US F1 saga, but it was very much Ken Anderson's micromanagement and general inability that led the team to ruin. Windsor was very much disconnected from the team (and his comments show it; he wasn't lying, he genuinely thought things were going well because, well, he didn't know what was really happening). If you talk to the people within the team, they'll say Windsor was something of a figure-head but didn't have a large enough involvement to know what was going on, while Anderson and his son were to blame for destroying the project.

How about his constant lying?
19th February 2011, 03:59
Mr. Mister

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Originally Posted by mstillhere

How about his constant lying?

Again, he was disconnected from the team. There were times it wasn't lying as much as him being unaware of the truth. There were probably times he was just saying BS, too, for marketing purposes.

I'm not saying Windsor has no blame in the situation, but the bulk of it should not fall on him, but rather Ken Anderson. I don't claim to be an expert on it, but everything I've read/heard from actual team members has laid the majority of the blame on Anderson. He tried to control everything, and yet he designed a car so outdated and wouldn't let anyone touch it. His shortcomings and crap management skills hurt the team a lot more than a questionable comment or two from Windsor ever could have,

I realize a lot of people are angry about US F1, and want someone to take that out on, and since Windsor was the public guy for the team, he'll take the crap, while Anderson gets away with being the guy who really destroyed it internally.

This article does a good job for being one of the few ones to actually call Anderson out: http://www.racintoday.com/archives/17528
19th February 2011, 19:20
mstillhere

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Originally Posted by Mr. Mister

Again, he was disconnected from the team. There were times it wasn't lying as much as him being unaware of the truth. There were probably times he was just saying BS, too, for marketing purposes.

I'm not saying Windsor has no blame in the situation, but the bulk of it should not fall on him, but rather Ken Anderson. I don't claim to be an expert on it, but everything I've read/heard from actual team members has laid the majority of the blame on Anderson. He tried to control everything, and yet he designed a car so outdated and wouldn't let anyone touch it. His shortcomings and crap management skills hurt the team a lot more than a questionable comment or two from Windsor ever could have,

I realize a lot of people are angry about US F1, and want someone to take that out on, and since Windsor was the public guy for the team, he'll take the crap, while Anderson gets away with being the guy who really destroyed it internally.

This article does a good job for being one of the few ones to actually call Anderson out: http://www.racintoday.com/archives/17528

I am sorry but I have no sympathy for the guy. He is a liar. I am not going further discussing this thread becausue we had this discussion already and forum members posted about a trillion reasons explaining why is was supposed to be kicked out of the business. I truly hope he is going to stay out. He is not missed.