Ok.
I thought I should give you an opportunity to see if you could actually debate.
It seems not.
I think its best you go back on the ignore list
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Ok.
I thought I should give you an opportunity to see if you could actually debate.
It seems not.
I think its best you go back on the ignore list
Thanks for that great post!Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
I felt both sorry and angry for Kimis sake at the time.
On the contrary -
http://kimiraikkonenspace.com/2008/11/2 ... -happened/
"Basically the tyre is going to an oversteer tendency during the
race," says Hamashima. "Maybe the car is a little bit understeery, but
as the tyres move more towards oversteer Kimi finds a good balance and
as a result could get the best lap in the race."
And
"Of course, there were races where the characteristics of the circuit
- Magny-Cours for example – meant he was able to get the tyre warm-up
right in qualifying and was able to excel on Saturday afternoon. There
were also times – Spa for example – where Raikkonen was able to charge
to the front on the opening lap, and we witnessed a performance worthy
of a world champion.
But, the fact was, there were just too many races where his struggle
to adapt his driving style to the understeering Ferrari F2008
undermined his chances"
So, as can be seen, there isn't just the "unlucky" tag to contend with in 2008.
And, of course, to the crux of the issue back then - and, please note, these words are from Kimi himself -
"That is the way it is," Raikkonen recently told Finnish TV station MTV3
when asked about his motivation. "If you know you are fighting only for
third place then you maybe don’t have the same speed for the whole race
as normal. If you have no chance to overtake or improve your position,
it is definitely not very interesting. When you are driving for the
title, naturally, things are completely different."
http://kimiraikkonenspace.com/2008/11/2 ... -happened/
And, for me, that was not good enough then and it won't be good enough next time if it is the same.
As I have said, though, I really hope it is different.
I really hope that Ice puts his head down and embraces the technical aspect of the car; no one is questioning his ability behind the wheel yet. If he doesn't you know Fred will, and that would be to Kim’s detriment. But more importantly I hope he succeeds for your sake, because you are so seriously emotionally invested in him, and the outcome. I hope we don't have to put you on suicide watch if Fred clocks him, gurl ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mia 01
If anyone is willing to read -
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/schum ... -1863.html
The important part is this -
"The German insisted that part of Kimi's loss in form in the second part of the season was because the Fin failed to adapt to the new developments introduced by Ferrari in the mid-season. I think I have to protect him in many ways, because in the middle of the season we made some developments to the car but Kimi simply didn't get on with these ones. The moment we went back to those changes, we got him back to competitive lap times,” added the former Ferrari champ"
This was a vital issue for me. Why on earth did the reigning World Champion, the man who should be the boss of the development direction, not instantly demand that the new developments were dropped when they did not suit him?
This must not happen again, and it shows that 2008 was about much more than simple luck.
I don't think he needs to be political, he just needs people that understand him around him and he's got those now: James Allison, Pat Fry (knows him from Mclaren) Slade?, Domenicali. Who has Alonso got? If he starts to be political again, he may wall end up shooting in his own foot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parabolica
:stareup: Which Fred knows, and is honing his skills because he will need his A-game to beat Kimi, and vise versa!
Zo aint thinking about anything except making the car fast for him. Problem is they both like the oversteerish handling so it's just like Fred and The Boss in that regard
May the forza be with both of them.
Best Wishes,
http://i.imgur.com/aBmAP6U.jpg
:dork:
I'm just saying...thaT LIKE like whatever!
With all due respect Dex, Allison was at Renault when Alonso was winning titles there, so they will know each other too. Fry has an existing relationship with Alonso, as does Domenicali. That leaves Slade, who is almost certain to be Kimi's engineer so would not have much to do with Fernando anyway.
Kimi failed to build.a rapport the last time he was at Ferrari, so we need to see if he has added that to his game.
To claim Fernando has no one in his corner, when he is embedded within the team and has provided the driving leadership that was clearly lacking in Kimi's previous residency is a little premature.
Again, for the Kimi fans, it is not his speed I question, it is the application.
Alonso has many character faults which have been destructive in the past, but I also see that Kimi is not without genuine failings of character too.