Whatever you say. Felipe was clean outscored by Fisichella in 2004, does that mean Felipe is also extremely overrated? Because it sure doesn't mean he's going to crush Raikkonen like you say he will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
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Whatever you say. Felipe was clean outscored by Fisichella in 2004, does that mean Felipe is also extremely overrated? Because it sure doesn't mean he's going to crush Raikkonen like you say he will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by ratonmacias
Think it like this, i can taste the bitternes coming from your initial post, your point in this was to accuse other members of hating your your guy.
I someone else, let's say Objectiveposter44 had put up the same link with a neutral commentary, it would be seen as objective and quite nice.
It's all about source credibility. :p :
JV may have been honest in his opinions, but they are somewhat clouded by his past, Mr Ramirez doesn't have the same baggage. :)
I'm not bitter about JV, I'm actually happy cause he finally left F1!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
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Originally Posted by Garry Walker
We have the beginnings of a pattern here :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
All this stuff about JV, lets look at the facts....
Challenges for the title in his rookie season in F1, clinches the title the following year.
Has a mediocre season, in a mediocre car with an undeveloped engine in '98.
Joins BAR with his friend and manager, Craig Pollock. Has many mediocre years in an abysmal car, run by an abysmal team. JV still sticks with it....
It's not until David Richards comes on the scene that BAR finally have direction, but JV/CP & DR don't get on, and JV eventually leaves, presumably under duress......
Has three starts in the Renault, but does not have time to adjust....
Joins Sauber, starts to settle in, and shows promise. Despite BMW's best efforts to oust him, he races under BMW Sauber, and continues to improve.
Leaves as BMW replaces him with Kubica late in the season, just as the car comes good.
Personally, I think he still had lots to offer F1, but most teams found it hard to adapt to his radical style of car setup.
I don't believe that the teams didn't like the setup style of his car, after all teams will always set the car up so that it suits the best the driver so that he is able to get the best results.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
No, they couldn't adapt to his inflated ego and equally big mouth.
I recall his first year at Sauber, he had many arguments with his engineers about setup. When he finally got them thinking like him, the results improved.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Link, no idea, but it was reported in Autosport I think, if you want to go trawling through the web site. Something for a rainy day perhaps......?
Not for JV's sake. Thanks anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
No , of course you wouldn't .Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
That would back up someone else's opinion , wouldn't it ?
"I'll always try to back it up" gets a bit transparent when you don't .
Look up irony in your dictionary .
"I don't believe that the teams didn't like the set-up style of his car..."
Ask Patrick Head . He ran Jacques and won .
In this case , JV won in the battle with the ego of the engineer .
And , he won the title the same year .
Bagwan you're his fan, you want to protect your idol, why don't you search for those comments and provide a link for us non-believers?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
I stated that teams did go his way and their technical divergences weren't the ones that lead to JV being ousted from F1.