Following the R2 thread today.
If most parts of 208 R2 can make up a R2 DS3, then maybe the 208 can borrow most parts from the DS3 R3?
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Following the R2 thread today.
If most parts of 208 R2 can make up a R2 DS3, then maybe the 208 can borrow most parts from the DS3 R3?
Any news on when Renault Expect to start testing their new Clio 4 R3T, or have they already started?
Since 2.0 is out, they need to build the 4 clio into rally car. Does Tom206wrc know status?
Have the following been modified?
R3C - 1600 to 2000 cm^3, 1080 kg (petrol, normally aspirated)
R3T - up to 1620 cm^3, 1080 kg (petrol, turbocharged)
R3D - up to 2000 cm^3, 1150 kg (turbodiesel)
The current Clio R3 is R3C, and the new one will be R3T, as is DS3 R3, right?
Has any cars been homologated in R3D yet?
Good question. You can guess for which manufacturer the rules were changed :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kober
It's Renault, the new Clio RS is equipped with 1618 ccm engine.
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by kober
Abarth Grance Punto in 2007 but it was an unsuccessful car.Quote:
Originally Posted by kober
Any other R3 cars then:
- Renault Clio R3C, R3T (future),
- Honda Civic R3C,
- Abarth Punto R3D, 500 R3T,
- Peugeot 207 R3T,
- Citroen DS3 R3T,
?
In Germany they have had a Diesel cup for some years, so they have a few national homologated cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by kober
More info here: http://www.hjs-drm.de/
There was a rumor that Toyota was preparing GT-86 R3C, so was a rumor about Ford Fiesta R3T. Nothing officially confirmed though.Quote:
Originally Posted by kober
Guys, just a question that came to my mind when I was watching Korhonen's onboard from Rally Yorkshire. What is the reasoning that FIA allows paddle shift gearboxes for this class and not WRC and R5 cars?
R3 cars don't have hydraulic gear-shifting. They use pneumatic or electric system. I don't know if that is forbidden for WRC cars too. Citroën is the only one in R3 who keeps using it. Honda/JAS abandoned that because of low reliability of their system.
Thanks for that, I thought they were hydraulic system as the old WRCars. Do you know if Kubica's system is hydraulic (slowed down) or is it similar to the R3T system?
I'm not sure but I think that it's hydraulic for Kubica.
Could M-Sport put the R5 engine into the R2 chassis, and class it as R3T?
What is needed to change on engine and chassis for them to make a R3T Fiesta?
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/in ... index.html
If I understand correctly another year before we see the R3 in action. No word on the R5 :(
An RWD R3 should be entertaining to watch, I hope some other manufacturers will pick up the idea too :)
Unfortunately, the model is not really suitable for R5 - if Toyota ever wanted to build such a car, they would rather choose a sub-compact.
Technically yes. M-Sport has homologated both the Fiesta R2 (1.6 NA engine) and Fiesta R3T (1.6 turbo engine). By the specific regulations same engine parts can be homologated in both R3T and R5. Pistons, connecting rods, flywheel, crankshaft etc. Not having the homologating regulations there could be some differences in what it means to homologate for an example the pistons. Same weight and materials for both R3T and R5?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
The difference between the R3T and R5 is the restrictor size which means different mapping as you probably know. By the specific regulations there’s no different in the chassis of a R2 and R3T except the 5-gear gearbox for R2 and 6-gear gearbox for R3T.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
I think M-Sport has been busy with the R5 project and don’t having recourses to develop a R3T yet.
Thanks for the claryfication OldF, maybe MSport will speed up if JWRC will go R3??
If JWRC switched to R3, what would be the point of WRC3?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Only one point of WRC3 was to fight against ERC 2WD...Quote:
Originally Posted by kober
Hi everyone, I've been reading the forum for a while but never replied before. I guess now it's a good time since I've got some pictures of the new Clio R3T that's being developed by RS at the moment. Homologation is scheduled for 1 July 2014 (whereas DS3 Max R3T is scheduled for 1 March 2014).
Check them out:
http://i.imgur.com/W9s2y6Q.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Co7P2Ew.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0YPSSF3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TwyNg05.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5R0DCdT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2lqVNMC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0ELO0qV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ej1NQTy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Y1joTir.jpg
Album link:
http://imgur.com/a/eyIHn/
I really like it so far!
Thnaks!
nice first post! thanks!
nothing new,just some photos i haven t see.
http://www.zougla.gr/automoto/article/i ... oyota-gt86
Not rally car, circuit races.
Andre the pictures I uploaded are not from the Cup version. They are from an official Clio 4 R3T rally test (I thought the gravel was enough evidence :rolleyes: )
For reference, this is the Cup version:
http://i.imgur.com/DgRNrPa.jpg?1
It's a bit strange that they're making a 5-door version of it!
There is no 3-door new Clio.
My coment was reply to Toyota pics :DQuote:
Originally Posted by hofmannr
Ups, my bad! I'm don't like it's design (probably have to get use to it like the Megane II)so I don't look to much to them, but the back doors are really in shape with the body! Didn't notice their all 5-doors!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Thanks for the correction Mirek
I did the same mistake few weeks a go and was corrected as well ;)
And the age limit in JWRC, so older FWD drivers can participate in a World Championship!Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
New image
http://i.imgur.com/yfYNA0X.jpg
1618 cm3 turbocharged engine Clio RS 200 EDC is specifically adapted to the competition by the Renault Sport engineers. The kit includes a box sequential six-speed with manual transmission, paddle shifters will be offered as an option on the asphalt release. Renault Sport Technologies is based on reputable suppliers to provide a consistent and reliable clients all: Sadev for the gearbox, Sachs dampers, PFC brakes and Cosworth for the electronic management.
"With Clio RS R3T, our goal is to provide an efficient, reliable and usable vehicle on any surface for an operating cost lower than the product replaced," said Arnaud Boulanger, Director of Marketing, Renault Sport Technologies. "The success of the first generation Clio RS R3 has reinforced our belief that this approach is particularly suited to the demands of our customers. This category has enabled Renault Sport to locate and shine in many markets, including outside Europe with cars operating in Asia-Pacific, Latin America and Oceania. "
"The first tests are promising and long development campaign is scheduled before the approval of the kit. The hands of many drivers, Clio RS R3T roll over ten weeks on land and asphalt to determine the best options. "
The approval is scheduled early in the second half of 2014.
http://media.renaultsport.com/Renault-S ... ml?lang=fr
One thing from the article which took my attention - Renault sold 373 Clio R3!
Sebastien Chardonnet posted in fb that he test the new DS3 R3 Max. Do we know what are the differences with the current DS3 R3?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 6956_n.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 214&type=1
Cllio R3T asphalt testing
http://www.autosportfoto.sk/spravoda...sport-r3t-foto
Happy holidays to everybody....Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Do we know who is testing ????