Well done Seb, fully deserved. :)
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Well done Seb, fully deserved. :)
+1 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Wow, what an awesome celebration too!! I hope to god he doesn't get in trouble for it. Superb for the show and for the fans.
Hmmmmm donuts :D
Seb will get a fine for the donuts and stuff. Just another example of no common sense in F1.
Anyway it was worth it, brilliant too see.
Congrats to Seb on a wonderful Championship.
Super congrats to Vettel. A deserving WDC, and a great drive today to do his season justice. And some nice celebratory flair.
don't think he'll be too bothered about anything other than if they dock him of all his points :pQuote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Congrat's to Seb. He took it in style.
A grid penalty or a fine would be worth it I'm sure. I like seeing that in motorsport so no complaints from me. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by donKey jote
Congrats Super Seb!!
I think Seb should set no time in Quali in UAE and see if he can win from the back.
hehe yep.
or start from the pits after eating an icecream :D
Congratulations to Vettel.
A true great of the sport.
Congratulations to Red Bull.
A fantastic team.
Congrats. Superb stuff! A superb season! To sum up the consistency of his campaign, his worst race of the whole year has probably been Hungary, in which Hamilton probably genuinely outdrove him, although there is a strong argument that RBR strategy department didn't really perform well either, sending Seb repeteadly back into traffic. However, if your worst drive of the season means getting onto the podium, I'd take it any day of the week.
And it is good to add Brundle quote here I just heard. "And he is the best driver at the moment too. I have no doubt about that."
Very good emotions now. But hopefully 2014 will bring something unusual, because some of Vettel's dominations have finally started to wear on me too. But at least the action behind him has been pretty interesting recently, making up for it.
Oh, and big congrats to Red Bull Racing as well. The team has written itself right into the history books of Formula One in a golden way.
The silver Mercedes' domination of 54-55, the Chapman's innovative dominating Lotuses, McLaren-Honda's great run of 1988-1991, the great Williams cars from 1991 to 1997. Ferrari's run from 2000-2004. Red Bull Racing is right alongside those legendary teams in historical perspective. It may have been boring to some, but we have been witnessing something absolutely sublime.
^^likeQuote:
Originally Posted by jens
good point
And, just as with the aforementioned teams, it is up to their rivals to do a better job in order to beat them.
I think it is sad that some people would wish to belittle the achievement of Vettel by claiming it is because of the car.
I don't have an awful lot of respect for Brundle but what he is saying is very true judging by your quote. The best driver over a season wins the championship. The best team over a season wins the championship. One without the other doesn't win usually. There are a few other drivers on the grid I would put on the same level as Vettel, but with F1 being very much a team effort, the drivers ability tells us nothing if the tools are not there.Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
Vettel has joined the greats in terms of championship wins and he fully deserves it. We look to 2014 now to see if the other top teams can adapt to the new regulations better than Red Bull. The likes of Alonso, Kimi, Hamilton, and Rosberg will be hoping their hard work will shine through if they land in the kind of car Red Bull have been producing I'm sure. We are lucky in this era we have so many good drivers on the grid. A shake up next year will be very welcome. :)
Didn't he start from last position there last year and finish 3rd?Quote:
Originally Posted by steveaki13
Could I also add that, if Sebastian wins again next year, it would be fantastic.
I'm Ferrari, not Red Bull, but that makes me appreciate the skill, talent and ability it takes to win multiple championships.
It is something that should be hoped for, in a way, since perfection is what all F1 teams should be seeking. It is something that should be truly admired.
And if somebody else wins, then they have beaten one of the elite. Which will, in itself, be a fantastic achievement.
He did yeah but it would be cool to see him do the same this year without safety cars :pQuote:
Originally Posted by gm99
It's clear he would finish well in the points whatever the situation :)
So True Jens.Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
Another piece of F1 history to rival or even better those in the past. Sensational. Congrats to both Seb and Red Bull they are awesome.
Absolutely.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
I think though both he and the car are better than previous years. So I think if he did it again he would have a real chance to win. Depending on how fast Mark was that day in his Red Bull. He would maybe be the only thorn in a 22nd to 1st.
I thought it was a little farcical. That 3rd place was probably a courtesy of the DRS system, which makes passing slower cars so much easier. Plus, the Toro Rosso cars jumped out of his way as usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by gm99
Fantastic year and phenomenal championship for Vettel. At 26, he is now equal to Prost. Simply amazing.
Vettel a well deserved champion, congrats to him :up:
I don't like Vettel that much. I don't dislike him, but I'm not a fan. One thing is sure, 30 years from now, I will tell people I saw him drive in person.
Bravo! A ruthlessly clinical season!
As must as I've lot to hail Vettel as one of the all time greats, and believe me I want to, I can't do it. Alonso could have won the last 4 titles in that car. Hamilton probably could have as well. Yes, Seb has made the most of it but he has had it too easy in my book for him to be regarded as an all time great of the sport as he was just handed the best car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parabolica
Anyway, a big congratulations to him. He is the deserved champion for this year and has driven fantastically well. A truly brilliant driver no doubt but I reserve handing out the all time great label until such time as I can see what he can do with a car that is not the fastest on the grid :)
You could easily say most champions have been handed the best car.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
For sure, that's not what I was saying though.Quote:
Originally Posted by jarrambide
Congrats on your 4th title Seb. You did a great job once again this year and will now be mentioned alongside the greats. Some will say you had the best equipment and that you owe most of your success to being given such a great car and I can't disagree with that but then Fangio probably suffered similar detractions back then... maybe? :stareup:
PS. You'd better not win it again next year cause that would really piss me right off! :evil: Give someone else a chance! ;)
Well done Sebastian! I won't be surprised if he makes it title No.5 by the end of next year.
I hope the booing choir work on tightening up their harmonies for 2014 though. Their performance this year has been second-rate.
:)
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/110948
This is the transcript of the post race press conference. It's a very humble interview and I'm impressed by Seb and his maturity. He really does seem to appreciate where he is in life and what he has.
If they fined him or gave him a grid penalty in advance, I'm almost sure that there'd be a sign on the rear wing of his car saying "IT WAS WORTH IT" or something to that effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
This is going to sound strange but I'm not entirely convinced that Seb has the best equipment. As weird as this sounds, I suspect that the Mercedes are actually better but that the little 1%ers that Seb does are better; such as getting on the throttle earlier etc. all those 1%ers add up.
2014 will be interesting as it marks a new range of engines. I suspect though that this will favour Seb even more because as we saw in the 1980s, turbo power comes in all at once.
Even so, Vettel deserves this title. Say what you like about the machinery under him, a driver still has to exploit it.
Yay. He won a fourth.
Much congrats to Seb. Regardless of the car I think he has done the best job of any driver this year.
I very much dislike what happened in Malaysia but I have to give the guy his due.
I have been most impressed by his consistency and his willingness to learn and improve, as he just continues to do. It has been on my mind for a while that Vettel is very disciplined and hardworking. He is not fazed or distracted by the trappings of the world and though I do think there is some arrogance there (I believe this is the influence of Helmut Marko) he does seem to have at least some genuine humility too - a high amount for someone in his position. So easily could he get wrapped up in the world of being a celebrity, but he has a pure desire for racing which seems higher than his rivals, and I really respect this.
Though I do have reservations about him, the are probably more about the team and their treatment of Webber. I agree with Truefan that Alonso would have taken these 4 titles had he been driving the Red Bull, and I expect 2009 as well. But I agree that regardless of the quality of the car, Seb has really deserved this title.
I am also impressed by how gracious everyone is being on this thread. I hope we don't get some slurs to spoil it.
Well done by both Sebastian and the team. It was obvious he was just starting to really come to grips with having that 4th title just before he hit the podium, and during the interview with DC.
I think the other manufacturers better put in the extra work now and hope like hell they can design a car that has a chance of keeping up with the RB and Vettel combo next year. And even if one or more of them does.... we might get a chance to see just how much of this equation has been pure driver talent.
Well done to both team and driver. I feel they have many more records coming in their direction.
You're congradulations suck....... :devil: ;) :pQuote:
Originally Posted by rjbetty
Well done lad :) Another great performance...perfect!