Rather underwhelmed watching these electric SUV's.
I think they're too big (for Lydden anyway). Why did they have to be that size ?
The huge suspension just crushes the track and jumps. Plus the lack of noise totally reduces the spectacle.
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Rather underwhelmed watching these electric SUV's.
I think they're too big (for Lydden anyway). Why did they have to be that size ?
The huge suspension just crushes the track and jumps. Plus the lack of noise totally reduces the spectacle.
IMO the race was fun to watch.
Im really into these characters, u'know? Niclas, Bakku, Larson, Travis etc.. I think its all about that for me, since I have been watching these guys since 2012. Great racing
Fun to notice the crosscars are faster than the Lites cars. Same way, supercars are faster than the Group E.
About the CARS... Im more an "open wheel" fan (American sprintcars, European Autocross Super Buggy, Crosscars, F1...) So these are not my favorite things out there. Way too big for this IMO but im not complaining. The race was great, the characters are my favorites... It was a 10/10 for me even missing the sound of the Supercars, which are my fav in motorsport
Now I want to see the Group-E car vs the Extreme-E car. "Just because"
Wouldnt mind also seeing the Group-E car doing the 4 Sunday's stages in a WRC event too. Just to see how it goes.
A guest car
Shame they didn't just keep NRX in the states, didn't find it as enjoyable this time and probably won't go to Sweden since they are not bringing the Subaru's over
Fastest lap times on both days was set by a Supercar (Fraser McConnell in the i20). Wasn't a huge amount in it, but the FC1-X isn't quite the "fastest rallycross car ever" (yet).
Really interesting to compare FC1-X and Supercar performance on the two days. The FC1-X looked slow at North Bend, but the speed they were carrying through Paddock and into the chicane was ridiculous. To me the FC1-X isn't a rallycross car though, it is more like an electric trophy truck. Sure it will be well suited to the US short course tracks (like ERX) that they used last year.
I don't think they have the budget for that as well this year.
They were 10 FC1-X finished for Lydden, with two more pretty complete shells sitting in the paddock. The original press releases had stated that they were looking at 16 cars.
I personally wasn't that enthused by the battle format and would much rather see a more traditional race structure for both days of the event. One or two good tussles on Saturday, but it the was pack racing I was waiting for and as a consequence I much preferred Sunday over Saturday.
There was a lot of uncertainty before the event and I got the sense that a lot of the organisation was very last minute. Supercar entry was the biggest disappointment of the weekend for me. It was already clear before that Subaru weren't going to be there (and financially I can understand why), but I was really hoping the series would bring those cars (and drivers) to Europe. The eye-watering entry fee surely put some locals off and I wonder how many will be interested at the other European stops given the cost. Still, cool to see a couple of ex-World cars at Lydden.
Despite that I definitely thought there were more positives than negatives overall. If I had to pick one international series then I'm still favouring World RX, but I'd definitely consider attending another Nitro round. I would expect to see much more certainty in the event before any future Nitro event though.
Took a few pictures, so here are a few faves...
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...more here if anyone is interested!
WorldRX postponed its openning round again to Hell.
It looks like theres somenlogistic problems on the materials and parts that should come from Asia.. and the ones who arrived are not assembled properly yet.
Yes! For a while I was kinda "angry" that pastrana choosed to start a new thing that its not popular in america (rallycross - with 2 recent dead championships) instead of just jumping in into the existing short course championships and making it a just one big series again (like pre-2009). Pro4 and Pro2 are easily the coolest things to watch once you know the drivers and all that happens during these championships! Plus theres already lots of gentleman/amateur racers, local tracks, fan base... Having Nitro combining the dying-west and the growing mid-west series in one national series would be amazing IMO. But hey, its not my money haha
Nitro somewhat bothered me last year as, to me, it wasn't rallycross as the big jumps and nature of the circuits was exactly like short course racing. The fact that some recognised short course layouts were used for the Championship last year irked me even more, especially as those circuits clearly weren't suited for rallycross cars and a lot of cars got badly damaged last season.
I was a huge fan of LORRS/CORRS and would love to have seen Pastrana put his weight behind that to resurrect it (and potentially move it forward with the electric FC1-X), but perhaps "rallycross" was a more marketable sport to go with. As you say, short course racing already has a foothold in the US and I think would be easier to pick up local interest with, though of course it would mean little to a lot of the international audience.
Rallycross doesn't have a great track record in the US - and obviously the previous management is a major factor there - Nitro certainly seems to have some experience behind it, but I am unsure if can got the distance at the moment. Time will tell.
World RX finally starts this weekend with the new all-electric era...
https://www.fiaworldrallycross.com/w...ay-next-month/
Live launch event...
https://youtu.be/IlfkNQ4P7eI
I am never going to love them as much as the combustion engine cars, but I must admit I am pretty intrigued to see how they perform this weekend.
For the sake of the Championship I hope they are reliable and we get some good racing.
New electrical cars with old model body shapes, LOL
Where is that "Lancia" team ?
Entries has Seat so at least it is missing
Apparently the only "new" car is the KMS' Polo..
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Makes sense really. Teams are facing a steep learning curve with the new powerplant. Use a chassis that you know well and you are already going to have a huge amount of data to work with for suspension, weight distribution etc.
Still building their cars. Not entirely sure who is constructing the race cars and if that is the same workshop responsible for the road car production as well. Believe they are still looking to have a car out on track this year.
Make sure those manufacturers come back and commit if they want their badges back on the cars! :laugh:Quote:
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On the whole I thought it was a pretty positive debut. RX1e cars seemed reliable and, although they aren't shattering records yet, the pace was almost equal to the RX1 from the outset despite the minimal amount of testing. The electric cars are never going to appeal to me as much as the combustion Supercars, but the racing was pretty close at times.
I actually quite enjoyed the Super Pole session, but the rest of the new format is not winning me over at all. I personally think it was a huge mistake to make such sweeping changes the same year as the electric transition. Nick really doesn't seem to be improving with his commentary either, hoped he would settle in after the first year, but his commentary is still riddled with errors.
Hmmmm I liked the eRX1 cars tbh. The lack of sound is not a problem to me... Tho RX Supercars are the 2nd greatest sound in motorsport IMO, just after old 90's CART V8 2.5L Turbo engines haha. But it was just fine. The racing was pretty good, as always in RX. The big turn off for me was the lack of entries... But about THE CARS, I felt "more at home" with these than with the NitroRX SUVS, which I also enjoy, just to be clear.
In the end, I think the best thing they should do is to just end this "World Championship" idea and just run a huge 12 round EuroRX with supercars, eRX1, the Projekt-E and the Panthera cars from Titans RX. THAT would be amazing.
Im not so sure the eRX1 will attract many brands and teams. That means no money too, so the promoter may jump out. GmbH is quitting other sports like crazy (UCI MTB, Crahsed Ice, Air Race, Pro Motocross in US, it looks they are leaving Japanese series in 2024...) I enjoyed the cars and I think most of the fans who were pissed about this are kinda OK with that right now, but Im not sure this is going to survive many years.... So ehh... whatever. I'll be watching but not expecting much.
I only watched the highlights but didnt see a single pass on track at all... but otherwise it was a good start to the new era. I'm also much happier watching these than the SUV-sized Nitro RX.
More entries will help when they come, but JK & Hansens are still going to be the top dogs until Gronholm gets some luck.
100% agree with you; love the sound of Rallycross Supercars, but it felt more like rallycross with this style of car.
Hmmm, not so sure on this. I thought the Pantera provided some fun racing, but the builds were rough as hell, nowhere near the quality of the FC1-X or RX Lite. Personally I'd rather see the Lites (petrol or electric) in their place. Projekt-E cars might work at a national level now (mixed in with traditional Supercars), but they are slower than the RX1e so I personally think it would be pointless to have them as another class when only a handful of them exist.
Going to be really interesting to see what happens; the manufacturers were obviously really up for it five years ago, but the world is a pretty different place now and I wonder if the economics make as much (or even any) sense for them to still want to get involved.
There might be more attraction for privateers now. Although it was the same names setting the fastest laps, all the cars were relatively close on lap time. Long term running costs should be less than an ICE car as well.
There were a handful of passes, most memorable one for me has to be JK in the final.
Johan and Timmy looked the class of the field, didn't they? They were the only two RX1e drivers well into the 37's on lap times.
Yes, you are right. I think Im just kinda "lost" with the amount of things going on right now.
Im not a big fan of "european rx" racing outside europe "just for the money" because it was proved pointless.
SURE, if Pastrana, Foust, Deegan, Kyle Busch, Jenson Button want to have a global series, thats understandable haha
But no one outside the RX niche knows Larson, the Erikssons, Marklund, Bakkerud, the Hansens... u'know? So just stick with a strong EuroRX would be my vote haha And add Nysum on the calendar ffs! =P
"Real RallyCross" haha
C-Final with Oliver Solberg and Johan Kristofferson
https://www.facebook.com/NGKmasters/...36966744698735
Thats a wrap for the WorldRX.
Not sure if someone is still watching it but u should bat an eye on the
new Lancia Delta Evo that raced on the last round at nurburgring. WHAT A CAR! Even with electric engines it looked AWESOME.
Whats next for WorldRx? No one knows! Tracks were empty, the grid had 8 cars and redbull's owner died so no one knows what may happen with the investments in motorsport.
IMO WorldRX would be fun again if it had more than 15 cars and the old comentator back (Andrew Coley).
Both are of the tabble so... Meh
Kill it, just run the european Championship and let the big stars go race in NitroRX
Yeah, I am still watching! Very encouraging debut for the Integrale; I had pretty low expectations, but I thought the car (and Guerlain) did really well. Shame about Kevin putting the car in the wall during the first race, but I think it is a really encouraging sign for 2023.
Teams are already talking about plans for 2023; GCK are looking at a two car entry, so that should take us to 10 regulars. If Munnich can get their original plan back on track they could increase to a two car entry. Sure the number of kits sold is well in double figures, so the potential should be there for a better sized grid.
That is an interesting point, do you think the death of the Red Bull owner will have that great an effect on investment? Would think that the direction of the company probably falls under a board rather than an individual? Maybe he was still that involved with the details though.
Coley is wasted in Nitro and, in my personal opinion, that (Nitro) has been massively underwhelming this year. I can't understand why World RX has got so much grief on social media when Nitro has underdelivered throughout this year. Such is the fickle nature of the internet I guess.
I thought Nitro would have much bigger grids in the US, but instead the main class numbers have gone unchanged, and the support classes have shrunk. Plus they have dropped Supercars. The whole thing has a whiff of GRC about it, fingers crossed they can turn it around.
Ahh thank god the F1 promoters are out. WorldRX is back to LyddenHill, Estering and Mettet.
Hell, Holjes, Montealegre, Cape Town are also on the calendar. And a season finale in "Asia" (probably Middle East, of course)
HOPE they get 10 more cars to compete.
EuroRX will run in Nyirad again
Shame that the Lydden weekend is all electric classes, but still brilliant to see the Championship back there. All classes running in Mettet and Estering, so definitely tempting for a road trip...
Really positive news for WRX I think. Initial response on all the social media posts I have seen seems to be pretty positive.
Loeb returns to World RX with Chicherit's Lancia in full time campaign.
https://www.fiaworldrallycross.com/w...egend-returns/
Gee, they really didn't make any effort with the livery of that car...
Nice!
RallyX starts next weekend.
Sebastien Loeb:
It's RACE WEEK ! Looking forward to reuniting with my old comrades from
@FIAWorldRX and the intensity of Rallycross racing ! All behind the wheel of a new car, the Delta EVO-e RX, and within a new team, @sp1racing.
Delta Evo-e livery revealed today :cool:
https://www.fiaworldrallycross.com/w...e-to-its-past/
Having WorldRX back with the old format, having Loeb and these awesome Lancias PLUS knowing they are back to Lydden, Mettet, Estering (instead of F1 tracks) has brought some excitement back for me! Round 1 was really cool to watch. WAY better than Nitro Rallycross with those spec SUVs haha. Thats not for me...
Heres the link to watch wrx semis and final AND eurorx final
https://www.redbull.com/ng-en/videos...legre-portugal
The Lancia team suffered a post race penalty cuz one of the members was caught pulling down his pants TWICE when next to the cameras during the livestream hahahahaahhahaha
100% agree with all this.
As EV racing goes this is pretty entertaining, and especially on tv as the lack of engine noise doesn't notice so much.
The competition is pretty close as is the racing, plus the addition of Loeb in the Delta has given the series a great boost.
The only pity is JK's dominance at the front which is getting quite annoying after many years.
Rd2 at Hell, Norway.
https://www.redbull.com/ng-en/videos...way-highlights
Not sure what happened to the track but there waay less dirt on the surface.
EuroRX not included but it was the best of the weekend.
The eléctric cars are almost being faster than the petrol cars in every session this year, which is interesting. Anyway, great racing.
They started the new "nitrocross" championship in america this weekend but its kinda lame..huge spec eSUVs... Meh.