that not nearly a reply to my question. we already have a war. the "what if" and "they should have done" related to the past are good exercise only for people not being bombed. question was, we have a war, what do you propose foe helping stop it?
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let russia do what they want and suck it up... banning cats and athletes will get everyone in Russia behind Putin, not against him.
Don’t go down the autistic road again NOT ffs.
I am autistic.
So you believe Putins bullshit?
Ukrain have no nuclear weapons. They aren’t going to be allowed to join NATO any time soon as that would and always has created a risk of war, and do you really believe Putins line that Ukrain is a nazi state, even though the prime minister has Jewish roots, and a country of 44million with no nuclear defence is likely to start a war with a country that has the worlds largest nuclear arsenal and is outnumbered by another 100 million?
The west just want a country that wants for democracy to have it.
thought the fact i can agree with you on that particular topic, it's diverting the discussion, and it's totally out of context here.
at the moment, in this particular context, i think cat ban ( meaning all kind of diplomatic-political-economical intervention) is way better than any kind of military-armed action (including accepting russia occupation). When people will stop dying from bombs, then we can open a beer and discuss all the injustice in the world and how evil is whoever we like. at the moment the priority is to stop the violence, and if a cat ban helps, here or in any other country, then I'm ok with it.
speaking now of other places, nations, political interest, past times is just speaking about our privilege.
As with most discussion on the internet, I think the fairest reaction here is somewhere between the two positions being given.
Yes, many other countries do bad things, and are still allowed to host sports events. It's something our leaders and regulators need to give more consideration to, rather than legitimising corrupt regimes, taking billions from countries with shady track records, or being part of dictators' propaganda.
But, the fact is, sport has been a big part of Putin's rise to power and longevity. He's made a lot of effort to ingratiate himself with elite athletes, teams and sporting events. Motorsport has earned millions, if not billions, from both the state and Russian industry (some of that money being from VERY dubious sources). While it may seem harsh to those individual athletes, some of whom will most likely be against the invasion of a peace-seeking neighbour, to ban them from competition, it's the only option sport has to both show its displeasure with the situation, and try to put some pressure on the dictator.
(I should add at this point, I strongly disagree with the assertion that Ukraine have gone 'full retard' and brought this invasion on themselves. It's not their fault their big brother is run by a paranoid maniac with nostalgic memories of the Soviet Union, and if they want to join NATO, or the EU, feeling safer in their embrace than that of Russia, that's up to them. They've been given pretty good evidence in the last 9 days which of their neighbours they should trust.)
So, in these circumstances, sport is at least partly to blame for the dictator's popularity, and has a role to play in facing up to him. All it can do is say no to Russian finance and participation, until it starts acting like a state which deserves to play the games it's spent so much effort and money trying to win.
Motorsport doesn't have any Russian 'national' teams to ban (Haas jokes aside), so for me, prohibiting Russian nationals from participating in elite level sport (at least where an international license is necessary) seems fair enough. What more can it do?
I wish I had the nuclear button so I could obliterate this thread, Jesus H. Christ.
EDIT: RUSSIAN DOGS BANNED FROM CRUFTS
https://www.crufts.org.uk/press-rele...t-crufts-2022/