Jenson sucked??
Lewis 190
Jenson 188.
Then Lewis also sucked as I understand.
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Jenson sucked??
Lewis 190
Jenson 188.
Then Lewis also sucked as I understand.
Did you even watch Formula 1 this season??Quote:
Originally Posted by Mia 01
I'm a huge Jenson fan but I readily conceed that Lewis was able to extract much more from the McLaren this year. Next year I am sure McLaren will be in a better position to tune the car so Jenson can exploite it better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mia 01
"We're racing Fernando ." , so Alonso would agree with me , and perhaps so would Coulthard .Quote:
Originally Posted by keysersoze
I don't understand the DC comment :confused: and with Fred, Lewis was told the only person he was racing was his team mate so you've rather proved the point ;)
I don't have a problem with Checo's comments.Quote:
Originally Posted by keysersoze
Read into it what you will. Very easy to play the cocky, arrogant card.
It shows ambition and desire.
I say bring it on. If he consistently extracts the maximum and gets results then he has every right to ask for number one status. I'm looking forward to see the behaviourial outcome within McLaren.
BTW, to say that there are no team orders at McLaren is an urban myth...
McLaren will use team orders when there is no realistic chance that one driver can win the championship or if two drivers are on different strategy and they dont want one to hold the other up.
Apart from that, there is plenty of evidence that they are allowed to fight it out and negligable evidence that they don't. The only example I can think of was when Lewis was told not to risk taking both drivers out at Monoco which seems quite sensible.
Count all the points that Hamilton lost due to outside circumstances. Simply count the points corresponding to when he retired. The do the same to Button. In the light of this I don't see how to describe the McLaren team battle other than as clear dominance by Hamilton. Hamilton lost too many points for reasons outside of his control (even his crash with Maldonado might not have happened if he did not lose his lead due to a bad pit stop prior). On the other hand, Button indeed earned his points count, and did not deserve something significantly better than that. He spent too many races driving anonymously somewhere in mid-pack, struggling with tires, "balance", and other drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wasted Talent
I can accept the notion that we haven't seen the best of Button this year, like it happened with say Hamilton or Webber last year. Nonetheless, even though there are plenty of counter-examples, I still believe in the theory that the best predictor of next year's performance is current year's performance (both, cars and drivers). I think the odds are good that McLaren drivers will do well, but will not challenge for WDC. It will probably be another Alonso vs Vettel battle again.
I see no problem with Jenson wanting to step up and assume the role as the team leader. McLaren have always allowed their drivers to race each other with very few exexptions. Though Sergio is a driver I like and support he is the rookie to the team, so it's natural that Jenson will feel as if he is the team leader, but it doesn't suggest he expects special treatment either.
The only real problem will be if Sergio starts kicking his butt in races... that could be awkward. But personally I feel Jenson would take it in stride and support Sergio if that were to happen. Not that I really expect it, but I don't think he will expect to be the #1 priority in the same manner Alonso did.
and now Button thinks that Hamilton learned from him and he is one of the best drivers out there developing cars
Formula 1 - Button: Hamilton learned from me at McLaren - Yahoo! Eurosport UK
where is he getting all this sudden hubris from, methinks the fact that Hamilton isn't his teammate anymore is allowing him to open his mouth and speak all kinds of nonsense these days
certainly did not hear this kind of talk before.
and for those of you who want the truth straight from from the driver himself: "The problem for me is if I can't get the car there I do struggle more than some."