Very good, but if we want to see made up personality conflict and drama we could simply watch the best racing film ever made which is of course (there can be no doubt) Talladega Nights..Sacha Cohen is the perfect Ogier.
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Even if he didn't break any rules, it is unsporty. Rules must be changed not to allow such a BS.
I understand that everything is for championship. And it always be like that.
But it ruins the sport. It is commercial contest then.
Next time somebody will throw a bomb to opponent car. Do rules say something that bombs are not allowed?
Arsony is a crime and there are serious consequences for those that break the law.
Power Stage tricks & tactics - Ogier in a stealth mode
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I guess it all depends on how thing go in Mexico. A lot of us believe in karma right? For Ogier's sake I sure hope he does not believe in karma.
He did not do anything wrong as far as rules are concerned, but some would say it was not good sportsmanship etc. We shall see in two weeks time...
Yes he did, and he was penalised for that - but the penalty was less than the advantage from breaking the rules.
I'm not sure why people keep saying he wasn't breaking any rules, if he was following the rules there would have been no penalty.
Its a similar situation if a rugby player makes an offside tackle (or other foul) to prevent their opposition from scoring and is penalised for it, they have broken the rules and accepted the punishment but it may be worth it to them if they concede less points from the penalty than they would have from the try. If they do it too many times or its too obvious that its a deliberate cynical foul they can be sent off though, which is a much stronger punishment... I guess we'll see what the stewards do it it happens again.
This odour of sanctity is getting a bit overpowering! The sport hasn’t been a ‘sport’ any more than F1 for years. Ogier just played the rules and found an advantage that would only probably have worked in his very particular situation. So can we now stop the hypocrisy and talk of karma.
Well he paid the price for breaking the rules then.. fair is fair. He gained something out of it while taking a penalty too. That's what the rules allowed him to do.
What I was trying to say in my previous post (poorly) is that we will see if what he did will be of any benefit. It all depends on his performance in Mexico.
And he consciously accept the rules to turn them in his favor. Its a matter of perception is he braking rule and what rules he is braking. Yes, the rules allow crew to start later with the given time penalty, yes the rules imply the crew will receive penalty for it. It is all accepted by all, the penalty and the result. That's it, and that's all. Is it sportsmanship, why not? For who is it unfair? Aren't all of them under the same rules? Is it fair to face unfair competition rules as it is with the road condition? How's that sportsmanship? Please.....EDI
EDIT: Should we open another thread for organizers breaking the "sportsmanship" rules, or it is all about about we all hate Ogier thing?
Yes, I agree with that. The question to ask is probably whether the rules should allow that to happen.
I don't think we wil know until the end of the season though really - if he wins the championship by 4 points or less he will certainly think it was worthwhile.
Is it fair for Neuville to let Ogier to be the first cars in Mexic for the first day? Neuville can obtain 30s penalty for late check in CO and let Ogier to be first
Yeah, it's not like all of a sudden most drivers became as good as Ogier and can win rallies. The road conditions though are all the same.