thanks for admitting that you dont know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy Drifter
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thanks for admitting that you dont know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy Drifter
let it glow let it glow let it glow
Anti-democracy? Hamas was democratically elected. Surrenderring to Israel would be anti-democratic and betraying their voters. I guess your definition of democracy is different than mine, because I don't consider very democratic forcing other people across the globe at gun point to become "democratic". I call it dictating and making the rules as you go, the US does a lot of dictating in the world and the Israeli does a lot of dictating in the Middle East.Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy Drifter
I have very little sympathy for either Israel or Hamas, as both have been antagonising each other constantly.
Israel building more in the occupied territories, and Hamas firing rockets into Israel.
Who I do feel sympathy for are the poor innocent civilians, as always they are the one's who suffer.
This is not going to be resolved overnight as neither side are willing to back down, Hamas could help their cause by a cessation of rocket launches and Israel by opening up trade links and moving out of the occupied territories but that won't happen.
The fact that the US and to a lesser extent the UK have not condemned Israel's over reaction, will be seen as a green light for Israel to continue their bombardment of Gazza killing anyone in the vicinity.
Just how long will Israel be able to play the victim card, it's a bit worn out now.
You do realise that all the settlements in Gaza were deserted in 2005..?Quote:
Originally Posted by yodasarmpit
This action came down on the Hamas (who I remind you, does not accept Israel's right to exist) because we can't accept 60 rockets a day on civilian targets. The Hamas just needs to know that there is a price for firing into Israel. Had they not fired 60 rockets a day, this action wouldn't have begun.
As for the Egyptians, they want Gaza much less than you think, Sean. They have declined responsibility time and time again because they don't want a radical terrorist movement such as Hamas under their wing.
BTW I an now studying in Ben Gurion U, so from now on you can refer to me as zionist scum living in the scum end of Israel.
Anyhoo, did anyone catch the footage of candy being thrown in celebration over here?
Oh, right, the vicious zionists here don't take to the streets and celebrate every time enemy blood is shed.
apologist for mass murder. the 'mass murder' going on in gaza is widely popular in Israel. Perpetrated on behalf of the israelis by the brave F16s and unmanned air vehicles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rani
btw, that's what your fellow countrymen and countrywomen, not me, refer to the 'south' of Israel.
Ehud Barack tried this bombing last year (and on many occasions over the past 15 years), it didnt stop the rockets. The Ehud barack doctrine, try the same thing over and over hoping you get a different result.
has the mass murder made israel any safer tonight? The israeli govt was talking about protecting its citizens at the same time an israeli was killed in retaliation.
May you go in peace Rani.
For a nation with some quite intelligent people (I mean that seriously btw!) Israel does dumb things. At the end of the day all the Palestinians want to do is live their lives in peace and not be killed and not kill anyone. Sure a lot of hateful people talk big and talk of removing Israel from the map. But down down people don't give a **** as long as they have a roof over their heads, food, healthcare and so on. When they have all that they won't care that Israel is there, they simply won't care at all and life will go on. If you leave them alone and allow food, aid and medical supplies in then the people will see that you're trying to help and the millitants will be marginalised and support for them will turn into hatred for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by SOD
I think that sort of happened in Northern Ireland. The British didn't send all their air force and tank brigades after every IRA attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Exactly. And now the Northern Irish still dislike the British a bit but they hate the IRA even more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
Daniel,
israel goes for the big stupid. They can have peace if they want it. They dont seem to want to.