Red Bull were right in keeping both of their drivers in the hunt, although most of us here thought otherwise a week ago.
Alonso/Ferrari could only try to cover off one of the Bulls, not both.
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Red Bull were right in keeping both of their drivers in the hunt, although most of us here thought otherwise a week ago.
Alonso/Ferrari could only try to cover off one of the Bulls, not both.
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Originally Posted by wedge
I'm not really sure that he could have been in front of Rosberg and Petrov after his pitstop, even if he had delayed it for several laps. He wasn't much faster than them, and tyre degradation would have certainly been a problem. Yet everyone is criticising Ferrari for the strategy, while there is no way to be sure that the result would have been any better had Alonso not pitted. In the end, it would have depended a lot on how Alonso's tyres would have behaved, and it's difficult to ensure that they would have lasted enough.
Had they waited 2 more laps Alonso would have came back on track behind Webber too.Quote:
Originally Posted by N4D13
The team tried first to cover Webber with Massa however it didn't work out, so they had to do it with Webber unless they knew that they can run at least another 10 laps with competitive pace on the soft tires, and they didn't want to take that risk.
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Originally Posted by markabilly
I dont think Red Bull sacrificed, webber, his right rear touched the barriers and he was checking on the status of that tyre on the radio, it was probably a precaution to change the tyre, rather then take risk for a few more laps.
if that is the case, even more of a reason to NOT pit FredQuote:
Originally Posted by i_max2k2
While Webber might have put a few hot laps in, the problem was all those backmarkers would have sooner or later hung Webber up (assuming petrov decided or was ordered to move over for Webber). The result would have been far different had FA ran much farther, just like Button, Seb, and the others did, before the pit.
And then there was Rosberg, who would not have moved over for Webber, and was clearly planing a run to the finish as Kubica, Koba, Hulkenberg, and others were trotting along for lap after lap after lap. Even if petrov moved over he would have still been stuck for lap after lap behind Hulkenberg
All things considered, the last two races decided the champisionship when Vettel stayed in front, sending the message to webber, and then the dumb pitstop, way too early in the race. Webber lost because of team managment. fred lost because of his own team's managment
Webber lost because he was dead slow.Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
Alonso lost because his team is stupid (we all knew that since 2008) and because he wasn't able to overtake a rookie driver.
Vettel won because he did everything right and there was no need for a daring strategy.
Had Alonso or Webber qualified 1st they would have had half the job done before the race started.
Bingo. And bingo again.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
I think Alonso and Ferrari were in the same unfortunate position as Webber and Red Bull. Both were off the pace and had no chance of going to the front of the field. By reacting to Webber they at least covered the driver closest to Alonso in points, and from there all they could do was hope Sebastian and Lewis had problems up front.
Things didn't work out good today for Alonso, but it would have been even worse to not change tires and get put another place down by Webber during the pit cycle.
I agree with this.^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Also... what good luck giveth, bad luck can taketh away! :D
True that :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave B