Thread: Rally History (part III)

Can someone help me , j would like to know the results of :
Lyon-Charbonnieres 1963 5° to 10°
Lyon-Charbonnieres 1967 4° to 20 °
Spanish 1966 all the result ( R.A.C.E .)
Spanish 1967 10° to 14° ( R.A.C.E. )
Acropolis 1976 11° to 20°
Acropolis 1979 14° to 18°

Thanks in advance for your help.
Best regards
Dario

Originally Posted by dario

Can someone help me , j would like to know the results of :
Lyon-Charbonnieres 1963 5° to 10°
Lyon-Charbonnieres 1967 4° to 20 °
Spanish 1966 all the result ( R.A.C.E .)
Spanish 1967 10° to 14° ( R.A.C.E. )
Acropolis 1976 11° to 20°
Acropolis 1979 14° to 18°

Thanks in advance for your help.
Best regards
Dario

Dario, here you'll find what I can add.


'67 Charbonnières (4th to 10th):

4th, Jean-Pierre Gaban & Jean-Marie Jacquemin, Porsche 911S
5th, Bob Neyret & Jacques Terramorsi, Citroën DS 21
6th, Jean-Claude Ogier & Lucette Pointet, Citroën DS 21
7th, René Trautmann & Philippe Leyssieux, Lancia Fulvia Coupé Rallye HF
8th, Patrick Lier & Silvio Vaglio, Sunbeam Imp
9th, Fernand Schligler & Georges Couzian, Renault 8 Gordini
10th, Sylvain Garant & Branco Stoikovitch, Porsche 911


'67 RACE (10th):

10th, Henri Gréder & Marie-Claude Beaumont, Opel Commodore GS


'79 Acropolis (14th & 15th)

14th, Ohu & Diener, Lada 1600, 17h37'17"
15th, Gemenis & El Nak, Datsun 1600 SSS, 17h5012"


Carles.

Originally Posted by Carles Bosch 02

Dario, here you'll find what I can add.


'67 Charbonnières (4th to 10th):

4th, Jean-Pierre Gaban & Jean-Marie Jacquemin, Porsche 911S
5th, Bob Neyret & Jacques Terramorsi, Citroën DS 21
6th, Jean-Claude Ogier & Lucette Pointet, Citroën DS 21
7th, René Trautmann & Philippe Leyssieux, Lancia Fulvia Coupé Rallye HF
8th, Patrick Lier & Silvio Vaglio, Sunbeam Imp
9th, Fernand Schligler & Georges Couzian, Renault 8 Gordini
10th, Sylvain Garant & Branco Stoikovitch, Porsche 911


'67 RACE (10th):

10th, Henri Gréder & Marie-Claude Beaumont, Opel Commodore GS


'79 Acropolis (14th & 15th)

14th, Ohu & Diener, Lada 1600, 17h37'17"
15th, Gemenis & El Nak, Datsun 1600 SSS, 17h5012"


Carles.

Thanks very much Carles , j have a little question about Acropolis 79 , j have 13° Gemenis 12° A. Jaroszewicz and 11° J. Sedivy, but if is wrong , who is 13° for You ?
Best regards
Dario

Originally Posted by dario

Thanks very much Carles , j have a little question about Acropolis 79 , j have 13° Gemenis 12° A. Jaroszewicz and 11° J. Sedivy, but if is wrong , who is 13° for You ?
Best regards
Dario

Here you are the rally classification, according to "sport-auto", july '79:





Carles.

Hello everybody after the long pause.
I am looking for several RACE results:
1965 - 6th-10th
1972 - 4th-10th
1973 - 2nd-10th
1974 - 4th-10th
1975 - 6th-10th
1976 - 4th-10th

Akropolis 76:
11. Trautmann/Roch - Peugeot 504
12. Kerc/Serre - Peugeot 504 inj.
13. Pagani/Chatriot - Peugeot 504
14. Lekkas/Makrinos - Audi 80
15. Riper/Kaiser - Opel Kadett GT/E
16. Culmbacher/Weitz - Wartburg 353

Regards
januszsz

Originally Posted by Carles Bosch 02

Here you are the rally classification, according to "sport-auto", july '79:

Thanks very much Carles
Best regards Dario

Originally Posted by januszsz

Hello everybody after the long pause.
I am looking for several RACE results:
1965 - 6th-10th
1972 - 4th-10th
1973 - 2nd-10th
1974 - 4th-10th
1975 - 6th-10th
1976 - 4th-10th

Akropolis 76:
11. Trautmann/Roch - Peugeot 504
12. Kerc/Serre - Peugeot 504 inj.
13. Pagani/Chatriot - Peugeot 504
14. Lekkas/Makrinos - Audi 80
15. Riper/Kaiser - Opel Kadett GT/E
16. Culmbacher/Weitz - Wartburg 353

Regards
januszsz

Thanks very much Januszsz , little question , Trautmann is Renè o Claudine Bouchet Trautmann ?
Best regards
Dario

Originally Posted by dario

Thanks very much Januszsz , little question , Trautmann is Renè o Claudine Bouchet Trautmann ?
Best regards
Dario

It was Claudine.
And one more question on RACE rallies:
in 1978 there were two co-drivers named Sabater classified in top 10. One was paired with Fernandez and the other one with Servia. What were the first names of them?
Regards
januszsz

Originally Posted by januszsz

It was Claudine.
And one more question on RACE rallies:
in 1978 there were two co-drivers named Sabater classified in top 10. One was paired with Fernandez and the other one with Servia. What were the first names of them?
Regards
januszsz

J have :
Benny Fernandez - Victor Sabater and
Salvador Servia - Jorge Sabater

Regards Dario

Originally Posted by januszsz

Hello everybody after the long pause.
I am looking for several RACE results:
1965 - 6th-10th
1972 - 4th-10th
1973 - 2nd-10th
1974 - 4th-10th
1975 - 6th-10th
1976 - 4th-10th


Regards
januszsz

1976
4° F.Lezema - Abana Ford Escort RS1800 3.38'02 "
5° S. Canellas - Ferrater Seat 1430-1800 3.41'12"
6° Bonet - Arnelia Ford Escort RS 1800 3.44'23"
7° Arroitia - Predera Opel Kadett GT/E 3.53'08"
8° G. Ortiz - Cabal Simca 1200 3.54'00"
9° C.Torres - Pina De Morais Mazda RX3 4.03'07"
10° Echave - Uriarte Simca 1200 4.04'16"

Regards
Dario

[QUOTE=januszsz;521474]Hello everybody after the long pause.
I am looking for several RACE results:
1965 - 6th-10th j have nothing
1972 -
4° Gargallo - Ramon Porsche 911
5° Beaumont -Giganot Opel Commodore
6° M. Sainz -Onoro Alpine A110
1973 - 2nd-10th nothing
1974 - 4th-10th nothing
1975
6° Trabado - Serrano Seat 1430 a 16'32"
7° G.Ortiz - Cabal Simca 1200 a 17'57"
8° Arrota - Pradera Opel 18'53"

J have only this , j am sorry
Best regards
Dario

Originally Posted by dario

1976
4° F.Lezema - Abana Ford Escort RS1800 3.38'02 "
5° S. Canellas - Ferrater Seat 1430-1800 3.41'12"
6° Bonet - Arnelia Ford Escort RS 1800 3.44'23"
7° Arroitia - Predera Opel Kadett GT/E 3.53'08"
8° G. Ortiz - Cabal Simca 1200 3.54'00"
9° C.Torres - Pina De Morais Mazda RX3 4.03'07"
10° Echave - Uriarte Simca 1200 4.04'16"

Regards
Dario

Thank you very much Dario.
May you let me know times of 1-3rd (1976) as well as times of 1-5th (1975).
Regards
januszsz

Originally Posted by dario

Can someone help me , j would like to know the results of :
Acropolis 1976 11° to 20°

According to a Greek auto magazine ( 4 TROXOI):

10.(car No 86) H.NIEBERGALL - B.FROMANN Wartburg 353 10.57.44
11.(52) H. TRAUTMANN- S.ROSS Peugeot 504 10.58.34
12.(107) A. KERC- F.SERRE Peugeot 504Ti 10.58.54
13.(109) P.PAGANI-FR.CHATRIOT Peugeot 504 11.02.20
14.(120) J.LEKKAS - EM. MAKRINOS Audi 80GT 11.04.42
15.(102) K. RIPPER - M.KAISER Opel Kadett GTE 11.05.41
16.(143) E.CULMBACHER - R.WEITZ Wartburg 353 11.07.55
17.(101) M. MOSCHOUS - "IKAROS" Alfa Romeo Alfetta 11.24.20
18.(48) D.SPANOS - E. GALLO BMW 2002 TI 11.24.53
19.( 139) P.LAPIE - M.GERTON Citroen GSX2 11.25.13
20.(60) K.KYPRIANOU - A.LONGINOS Hillman Avenger 11.25.41

Originally Posted by januszsz

Thank you very much Dario.
May you let me know times of 1-3rd (1976) as well as times of 1-5th (1975).
Regards
januszsz

j have not the time of the 1 ° 1975
2 ° + 4 ' 06 "
3° + 7 ' 30 "
4° + 8 ' 47"
5° + 13 ' 32 "

1976
1° De Bagration 3 . 25 ' 43 "
2° Darniche 3 . 28 ' 29 "
3° Zanini 3 . 37 ' 24 "
Best Regards

Dario

Originally Posted by DIMI44

According to a Greek auto magazine ( 4 TROXOI):

10.(car No 86) H.NIEBERGALL - B.FROMANN Wartburg 353 10.57.44
11.(52) H. TRAUTMANN- S.ROSS Peugeot 504 10.58.34
12.(107) A. KERC- F.SERRE Peugeot 504Ti 10.58.54
13.(109) P.PAGANI-FR.CHATRIOT Peugeot 504 11.02.20
14.(120) J.LEKKAS - EM. MAKRINOS Audi 80GT 11.04.42
1

Thanks Very Much DIMI44

Can you help me for other results of old Acropolis ?
Thanks in advance
Dario

Originally Posted by dario

Can someone help me , j would like to know the results of :Acropolis 1979 14° to 18

...........................
16) HIBURGER - WEITZ VARTBURG 353 WR 17.53.33
17) PROTOPAPPAS - " ISAVROS" DATSUN 160J VIOLET 18.02.50
18) PANOURGIAS - HAIMANIS RENAULT 18TL 18.11.25


(4 TROXOI magazine No 106,July 1979)

Originally Posted by dario

Thanks Very Much DIMI44

Can you help me for other results of old Acropolis ?
Thanks in advance
Dario

If it is after 1979............

Before 1979 I have not many documents.

Originally Posted by DIMI44

...........................
16) HIBURGER - WEITZ VARTBURG 353 WR 17.53.33
17) PROTOPAPPAS - " ISAVROS" DATSUN 160J VIOLET 18.02.50
18) PANOURGIAS - HAIMANIS RENAULT 18TL 18.11.25


(4 TROXOI magazine No 106,July 1979)

16th should be Heimburger (there above is a spell mistake) and in 1976 co-driver in 11th was Serge Roch not Ross.
I have Claudine Trautmann in 11th (1976) and Dimi44 suggest it was Henri. Anybody can solve the problem?
By the way Dimi are you able to add some Greek first names? Do you have entry or starting lists?
Regards
januszsz

Originally Posted by DIMI44

If it is after 1979............

Before 1979 I have not many documents.

j hope yes . this is my questions :
1985 16° - 20°
1982 17° - 20°
1981 19° - 20°
1980 18° - 20°
1975 14° - 17°
1960 15° - 20°
1958 16° - 20°
Very thanks anyway
Best regards
Dario