Rally History (part III)

**Volvo in Motorsport** · 26th May 12, 13:26

Originally Posted by jrally

Hello,
Here what I have :

Helskinki Rally 1973 (some differences)
6-Markku Alen-Juhani Toivonen (9º)
11-Hannu Mikkola-Atso Aho (2º)
14-Arto Huhtasalo-Jukka Pietila (ret.)
15-Eero Soutulahti-Risto Anttila (5º)
16-Timo Karsikko-Simo Rannisto (ret)
17-Erkki Pitkanen-Juhani Paalama (8º)

Kesoil Ralli
6-Markku Alen-Juhani Toivonen (ret.)
8-Seppo Utriainen-Risto Heinonen (13º)
10-Arto Huhtasalo-Jukka Piettila (ret.)

1974 - Lansirannikon
3 - Ulf Gronholm- Bo-Henrik Langstrom (ret)
12-Erkki Pitkanen-Juhani Paalama (6º)
13-Arto Huhtasalo-John Worsoe (22º)
32-Eva Heinonen-Satu Valtaharju (18º)

Timo Salonen entered in a Mazda 1300 (9th overall)

That's what I have
Hope it helps
Best regards
Jorge

Thank you, it helps me very much!!

The first rally for Timo Salonen in the Volvo 142, was in the 1974 Kesoil Ralli in September. I looked at the wrong rally.

Do you know who was in car nr: 61 in the 1978 Hankiralli??
I have a pic on the Volvo 142 with reg nr: ABC 980, from that rally.
But no names.

**jrally** · 26th May 12, 13:40

Originally Posted by Volvo in Motorsport

Thank you, it helps me very much!!

The first rally for Timo Salonen in the Volvo 142, was in the 1974 Kesoil Ralli in September. I looked at the wrong rally.

Do you know who was in car nr: 61 in the 1978 Hankiralli??
I have a pic on the Volvo 142 with reg nr: ABC 980, from that rally.
But no names.

Reijo Oksanen-Juhani Tamminen. They finnished 29th overall

Best regards
Jorge

**jrally** · 26th May 12, 13:44

Kesoil 1974

6 - Erkki Pitkanen-Juha Piironen (8º)
9 - Timo Salonen-Seppo Harjanne (10º)
20-Bjorn Johansson-Hans Othberg (S) (11º)
44-Eva Heinonen-Seija Saaristo (28º)

regards
Jorge

**Volvo in Motorsport** · 26th May 12, 13:59

Originally Posted by jrally

Kesoil 1974

6 - Erkki Pitkanen-Juha Piironen (8º)
9 - Timo Salonen-Seppo Harjanne (10º)
20-Bjorn Johansson-Hans Othberg (S) (11º)
44-Eva Heinonen-Seija Saaristo (28º)

regards
Jorge

Thank you!! Great help.

**kabouter** · 26th May 12, 16:53

Originally Posted by jrally

Could someone help me with these names ?

Golden Tulip 2002
P??? van Adel-J??? de Kluijven (Opel Astra Gsi) 28th
Harry van den Meer-O???? Kurmas

Peter van Adel - Jacco de Kluijver
Oscar Durmas

**kabouter** · 26th May 12, 18:03

Originally Posted by jrally

Could someone help me with these names ?

Budapest 2001
Magyari Beck-???? Janusch

Full name is Szabolc Magyari Beck. Co-driver might be Péter Janusch who drove a few national rallies in 2000, but that's just a guess.

By the way, the correct driver name for Golden Tulip 2002 is Harry van der Meer (http://members.tele2.nl/wingerden8/index2.html) and I made an error with the co-driver, it's Osman Durmus.

**jrally** · 26th May 12, 21:22

Thank You very much, Tjeerd !

best regards
Jorge

**kabouter** · 29th May 12, 16:45

As some people may have noticed, a few weeks ago I started working on RallyBase again after a long period of inactivity. And now finally ERC and IRC results for 2008 are online (Matt, if you are reading this: thank you for your work and apologies for the delay!). Because it is a lot of information added to the database in a short period, there are bound to be some mistakes. As always, if you spot anything, please let me know either by e-mail (to be found on the RallyBase website) or through the forum.

**Josti** · 29th May 12, 23:10

Good to see you active again!

Hope you can expand your European Championship database prior to 1983 someday, that was a nice process.

**kabouter** · 31st May 12, 15:25

Thanks Josti. And continuing with the ERC results is something I wanted to do, so today I started work on 1982

**januszsz** · 3rd Jun 12, 14:06

Hi Kabouter,
Nice to see you at work again.
Here you have missing names for Zlatni'86:
28th Nikolay/Nikolay
30th Yordan/Georgi
32nd /Todor
33rd Emil/Ivan
Regards
Janusz

**kabouter** · 4th Jun 12, 18:56

Thank you for the extra information, Janusz. The first names are now added to the database. That makes two people named Nikolay Kolev and three named Nikolay Nikolov in my database - those Bulgarian results can easily become a bit confusing...

**januszsz** · 5th Jun 12, 08:22

Hi Kabouter,
Collecting such information is always very confusing...
I checked also non finisher and here is result:
No 41 Yotzo / Angel
No 42 I have a different co-driver: Viktor Prostov and I don't know the first name of certain Momchev
No 57 Hriskosko / Ilia
No 90 Belcho / Kresen

Regards
Janusz

**kabouter** · 7th Jun 12, 11:53

Originally Posted by januszsz

Hi Kabouter,
No 42 I have a different co-driver: Viktor Prostov and I don't know the first name of certain Momchev

Thank you for those first names, Janusz. In the entry list there is Viktor Prostov. However in the results for SS1 (as can be found here: Ð*ÐµÐ·ÑƒÐ»Ñ‚Ð°Ñ‚Ð¸ Ð¾Ñ‚ Ð¡Ð•1, ÑÑ‚Ñ€Ð°Ð½Ð¸Ñ†Ð° 2 ) there is N. Momchev.

**januszsz** · 7th Jun 12, 20:12

Originally Posted by kabouter

Thank you for those first names, Janusz. In the entry list there is Viktor Prostov. However in the results for SS1 (as can be found here: Ð*ÐµÐ·ÑƒÐ»Ñ‚Ð°Ñ‚Ð¸ Ð¾Ñ‚ Ð¡Ð•1, ÑÑ‚Ñ€Ð°Ð½Ð¸Ñ†Ð° 2 ) there is N. Momchev.

Don't you think it can be Nikolay Monchev? (mind spelling)
Hebros 1995 co-driver's name in 7th was Zhivko.

Regards
Janusz

**kabouter** · 8th Jun 12, 11:18

Originally Posted by januszsz

Don't you think it can be Nikolay Monchev? (mind spelling)

Now that you mention that, it looks pretty obvious it must be him. I've changed it.

Also Zlatni 1982 which you sent me is online now: RallyBase
Thank you very much for that, Janusz!

I think the co-driver of Rena Blome is Brigitte Johann, who was also her co-driver in the 1982 Rallye Deutschland. Based on the starting numbers and the usual way of numbering in Rally Zlatni in that period with non-priority drivers grouped together by car Class, I have made assumptions about the cars you weren't sure about in your result. It is just a guess, but one I am pretty confident about. Of course finding an official result including all the classes would be best. So if there are any Bulgarians with official Zlatni 1982 results reading this...

Likewise I'd also be interested to know about any retirements from this rally (or from any other Rally Zlatni in the 1980s except for 1986).

**kabouter** · 8th Jun 12, 11:40

Looking for a list of winners of the Peace & Friendship Cup I couldn't find any on the Internet (perhaps there is one available, but only in a language that my Google skills cannot turn up). So from the World Rallying annuals I came up with the following list for the years 1978-1989. Janusz (or anybody else), can you confirm or correct this list, and do you have additions before 1978? Was 1989 the last year of the Cup?

Peace & Friendship Cup winners

1989 Václav Arazim (Tch) Škoda 130L
1988 Pavel Sibera (Tch) Škoda 130LR
1987 Pavel Sibera (Tch) Škoda 130LR
1986 Vallo Soots (Urs) Lada 2105 VFTS
1985 Svatopluk Kvaizar (Tch) Škoda 130LR
1984 Andrzej Koper (Pol) Renault 5 Alpine
1983 Svatopluk Kvaizar (Tch) Škoda 130RS
1982 Vello Õunpuu (Urs) Lada 1600
1981 Jan Trajbold (Tch) Škoda 130RS
1980 Václav Blahna (Tch) Škoda 130RS
1979 Jan Trajbold (Tch) Škoda 130RS
1978 Jiří Šedivý (Tch) Škoda 130RS

**jrally** · 9th Jun 12, 10:06

I have a reference that Ingvar Carlsson participated in the Swedish Rally 1979 in a BMW 320i.

However I was never able to have sure if he participates or not. Martin Holmes never puts this participation on their books but it his referred in the book of Jean Paul Renvoizé where he retired with transmission problems.
Also, Holmes says that there was a national competition. Did he participated in that category ?

Anyone could help me with this mistery ? If he participated what start number did he had ?

Also about Ingvar Carlsson does anyone knows what was the reason of his retirement in 1000 Lakes 1983 ?

And to finnish does anyone knows what was his reg plate in 1977 and in Acropolis 1980 ?

Thank You in advance
Best regards
Jorge

**januszsz** · 9th Jun 12, 11:12

Hi Jorge,
I have Ingvar Carlsson with number 17 and transmission as a reason of his retirement. No info on category he did the rally (national or international) and I don't have info on his co-driver in that rally. Do you know that?
Regards
Janusz

**jrally** · 9th Jun 12, 17:13

Thank You, Janusz !

I have Sven-Roine Hasselberg has his co-driver and number 17 is free !

Even the car (BMW 320) and co-driver are in doubt ! So, if someones know more ...

Regards
Jorge