27th Nov 07, 10:39 #1
Michael Schumacher and his career...
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27th Nov 07, 10:40 #2
He won lots of times.
27th Nov 07, 10:43 #3
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27th Nov 07, 10:48 #5
In the context of H&N I wonder how Michael and his achievements will be viewed in years to come. In the case of other greats like Fangio and Clark (just two examples!) we have decades of hindsight, and perhaps rose-tinted spectacles, to help us view their careers. We don't yet have that for MS and I wonder if his reputation suffers because of it.
27th Nov 07, 11:28 #6
It was amazing in Felipe's cart race, how clearly you could see his quality. Because on the small track with the small carts, and a higher viewpoint, the camera could follow MS and the cart in front or behind, as a pair.
Time and again he would overtake someone, they would cling on close behind him for two or three corners, then they would lose a metre in a corner, then another one, then a lap later they would be history. He did this to Piquet, Fillipi, everyone. And he would have won or been second in Race2 as well, if he hadn't been baulked badly twice by backmarkers - when we saw him arm waving and glaring at them, the competitive spirit still there even in a charity event.To a guy with a new hammer, everything looks like a nail.
27th Nov 07, 11:37 #7
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27th Nov 07, 12:58 #9
For now he's still active in F1 so I'll stick to the other forum!Michael Schumacher The Best Ever F1 Driver
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27th Nov 07, 13:26 #10
27th Nov 07, 18:51 #11
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27th Nov 07, 19:19 #12
clearly among the greatest drivers of F1, got way more help than needed when in Ferrari IMOFan of Timo Glock and proud of it! 3 podiums, new start as a Virgin
28th Nov 07, 07:58 #13
Personally the first season I followed F1 was late 1994 when I was supporting Damon Hill against Schumacher, as we all know that ended badly
28th Nov 07, 08:13 #14
He was unique because he was far more than just a great driver - he formed an entire team around himself! Nobody else has ever done that."You can mop the blood up later." - R.A. Lafferty
28th Nov 07, 08:35 #15
28th Nov 07, 08:43 #16
The Tyrrell team was built around Jackie Stewart, and although they ran a number of different chassis (Matra, March & Tyrrell) the combination won 3 WDCs and two WCCs between 1968-73
Lotus became Jim Clark's team between 1960-68 and they won two WDCs and 2 WCCs in his time.
What Ferrari and Michael Schumacher achieved was remarkable, no question about that, but he was not unique in F1 in having a team built around him. Lauda's achievements at Ferrari were comparable with MS's in that he lifted the team from a distant 6th in the WCC to champions within 2 years.
28th Nov 07, 09:19 #17
I bet he played with Lego & Mecchano when he was a nipper....
He is one of those rare souls that is not only naturally gifted at driving, he also has a very good technical grasp of what is required to make a car go fast. A bit like Prost, but Prost was SO good, he looked like he was going slow when he was whipping everyones hides!
Schumi also had that win at all costs competetive streaks, that meant he did some strange stuff that he thought was acceptable, but was probably a bit OTT.
Great nonetheless though, I will give him that.Opinions are like ar5eholes, everyone has one.
28th Nov 07, 09:44 #18
He always avoided a fast teammate, a la Fernando (but with more success...), I wonder if he is more insecure than you would think. And suppose, say, his background had been different, say Graham Hill as his father? Would he have been the complete sporting gentleman?To a guy with a new hammer, everything looks like a nail.
28th Nov 07, 19:17 #19
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29th Nov 07, 16:41 #20
I would really like to see him race Lewis Hamilton to see which of them is the best but I think he should stay out of F1 he raced for 17 years and was simply one of the best f1 drivers that's ever been.