Thread: Is Jo Ramirez also bitter?

Well we should think of Villnueve being bitter because of the unspectacular end to his carrer; this sounds more like just an honest opinion.

There isn't much in F1 that Jo Ramirez has not seen. To me, he makes some interesting and accurate observations. He also has some valuable inside knowledge on which to base his opinions.

It must be irritating Kimi a little that everyone is talking up Massa's chances. Maybe Kimi will feel that he has a point to prove. It may be benefit him in the long term.

It's also significant that Ramirez is confident that Lewis Hamilton will be a sensation. Such a seasoned observer would not make such comments lightly.

Ramirez knows his onions, but only time will tell who comes out on top.

Personally, I think Kimi will beat Massa comfortably.

Massa may have the upper hand initially, because of his momentum and position and stature within the team, but Kimi should come on stronger as the season progresses and he feels more comfortable.

Massa will dismantle Kimi easily and expose him. KR is a very overrated driver. I found it funny last year and in 2005 how he struggled at times against a driver like Pedro de la Rosa

Originally Posted by Garry Walker

Massa will dismantle Kimi easily and expose him. KR is a very overrated driver. I found it funny last year and in 2005 how he struggled at times against a driver like Pedro de la Rosa

So I'm going to suppose the fact that Kimi took JPM - a WDC contender- apart in the same machinery is irrelevant, because Felipe managed 2 wins in a far superior car (on days when the Ferrari was the quickest car by far, and when his team-mate struck trouble) in 2006 as opposed to 0 for Kimi... right?

Originally Posted by Shifter

Well we should think of Villnueve being bitter because of the unspectacular end to his carrer; this sounds more like just an honest opinion.

so we have a double standard villeneuve is bitter but ramirez is honest while they are stating the same in their opinions.

You have to spell it out for them , Rat .

That double standard comes from them being bitter about Jacques , not Jacques being bitter about F1 .

Bit ironic , don't you think ?

Originally Posted by Malllen

So I'm going to suppose the fact that Kimi took JPM - a WDC contender- apart in the same machinery is irrelevant, because Felipe managed 2 wins in a far superior car (on days when the Ferrari was the quickest car by far, and when his team-mate struck trouble) in 2006 as opposed to 0 for Kimi... right?

JPM was extremely overrated - He never did manage to squash Ralf as he was supposed to, in fact, they were usually equal. He also didnt impress me when he drove against Gene. So its only normal that Kimi had it easy against JPM. But my opinion on kimi is based on how he performed against Pedro, he wasnt that impressive at all and was quite often actually SLOWER than Pedro.

Originally Posted by Garry Walker

JPM was extremely overrated - He never did manage to squash Ralf as he was supposed to, in fact, they were usually equal. He also didnt impress me when he drove against Gene. So its only normal that Kimi had it easy against JPM. But my opinion on kimi is based on how he performed against Pedro, he wasnt that impressive at all and was quite often actually SLOWER than Pedro.

Whatever you say. Felipe was clean outscored by Fisichella in 2004, does that mean Felipe is also extremely overrated? Because it sure doesn't mean he's going to crush Raikkonen like you say he will.

Originally Posted by ratonmacias

so we have a double standard villeneuve is bitter but ramirez is honest while they are stating the same in their opinions.

Yes.
Think it like this, i can taste the bitternes coming from your initial post, your point in this was to accuse other members of hating your your guy.
I someone else, let's say Objectiveposter44 had put up the same link with a neutral commentary, it would be seen as objective and quite nice.
It's all about source credibility.
JV may have been honest in his opinions, but they are somewhat clouded by his past, Mr Ramirez doesn't have the same baggage.

Originally Posted by Bagwan

You have to spell it out for them , Rat .

That double standard comes from them being bitter about Jacques , not Jacques being bitter about F1 .

Bit ironic , don't you think ?

I'm not bitter about JV, I'm actually happy cause he finally left F1!

Originally Posted by Garry Walker

Massa will dismantle Kimi easily and expose him. KR is a very overrated driver.

Originally Posted by Garry Walker

JPM was extremely overrated.

We have the beginnings of a pattern here

All this stuff about JV, lets look at the facts....

Challenges for the title in his rookie season in F1, clinches the title the following year.

Has a mediocre season, in a mediocre car with an undeveloped engine in '98.

Joins BAR with his friend and manager, Craig Pollock. Has many mediocre years in an abysmal car, run by an abysmal team. JV still sticks with it....

It's not until David Richards comes on the scene that BAR finally have direction, but JV/CP & DR don't get on, and JV eventually leaves, presumably under duress......

Has three starts in the Renault, but does not have time to adjust....

Joins Sauber, starts to settle in, and shows promise. Despite BMW's best efforts to oust him, he races under BMW Sauber, and continues to improve.

Leaves as BMW replaces him with Kubica late in the season, just as the car comes good.

Personally, I think he still had lots to offer F1, but most teams found it hard to adapt to his radical style of car setup.

Originally Posted by SGWilko

Personally, I think he still had lots to offer F1, but most teams found it hard to adapt to his radical style of car setup.

I don't believe that the teams didn't like the setup style of his car, after all teams will always set the car up so that it suits the best the driver so that he is able to get the best results.

No, they couldn't adapt to his inflated ego and equally big mouth.

Originally Posted by ioan

I don't believe that the teams didn't like the setup style of his car, after all teams will always set the car up so that it suits the best the driver so that he is able to get the best results.

I recall his first year at Sauber, he had many arguments with his engineers about setup. When he finally got them thinking like him, the results improved.

Link, no idea, but it was reported in Autosport I think, if you want to go trawling through the web site. Something for a rainy day perhaps......?

Originally Posted by SGWilko

Something for a rainy day perhaps......?

Not for JV's sake. Thanks anyway.

Originally Posted by ioan

Not for JV's sake. Thanks anyway.

No , of course you wouldn't .
That would back up someone else's opinion , wouldn't it ?

"I'll always try to back it up" gets a bit transparent when you don't .
Look up irony in your dictionary .

"I don't believe that the teams didn't like the set-up style of his car..."
Ask Patrick Head . He ran Jacques and won .

In this case , JV won in the battle with the ego of the engineer .
And , he won the title the same year .

Originally Posted by Bagwan

No , of course you wouldn't .
That would back up someone else's opinion , wouldn't it ?

"I'll always try to back it up" gets a bit transparent when you don't .
Look up irony in your dictionary .

"I don't believe that the teams didn't like the set-up style of his car..."
Ask Patrick Head . He ran Jacques and won .

In this case , JV won in the battle with the ego of the engineer .
And , he won the title the same year .

Bagwan you're his fan, you want to protect your idol, why don't you search for those comments and provide a link for us non-believers?!

I stated that teams did go his way and their technical divergences weren't the ones that lead to JV being ousted from F1.