Driver and Donkey of the British GP

**F1boat** · 8th Jul 12, 14:37

Driver - Webber
Donkey - Pastor

**wedge** · 8th Jul 12, 14:40

Driver of the Day: I'd like to give to Massa

Donkey: Kobay

Not sure about the Perez/Maldonado incident and nor is it easy to have much sympathy for Pastor these days.

**Dave B** · 8th Jul 12, 14:40

Originally Posted by F1boat

Driver - Webber
Donkey - Pastor

Spot on

Webber pulled off a good old-fashioned no nonsense non-DRS pass on Alonso (who, to be fair, gave Webber proper respect and racing room). Massa deserves a pat on the back for a decent performance too.

Donkey definately Pastor, it was yet another bone-headed move from someone who is gaining a poor reputation; and Kobayashi is honourable donkey for clattering into half his pit crew and toppling them like dominoes.

**Mr Alca-Tazizzle** · 8th Jul 12, 14:45

Driver~Webber
Donkey~Egornado

**donKey jote** · 8th Jul 12, 14:47

ditto ditto ditto

**donKey jote** · 8th Jul 12, 14:48

Webber perfect against a very fast Ferrari (just see where even Massa ended

)

**jens** · 8th Jul 12, 15:01

Donkeys are Maldonado and Sauber (latter for the whole weekend). It is just mindblowing, how many points these competitors have thrown away this season despite having a really fast car.

Driver? Webber, Alonso. Grosjean for a good recovery (have to look again, how responsible he was for the first lap incident though).

**N4D13** · 8th Jul 12, 15:01

Driver: Webbo
Donkey: anyone who expected this race to be exciting. I don't know about you, but I found it rather boring...

**steveaki13** · 8th Jul 12, 15:04

Driver of the Day:

Fernando Alonso - For me he drove a brilliant race, and I thought he deserved a win, but unfortunately his tyres were not up to it at the end.

Other Mentions:
Mark Webber - Great drive and chose his moment well, the move was brave but he was helped by DRS. That is the 0.5% which makes me give the DOTD to Fernando

Massa- He drove really well and was like the Massa of old. Good job.

Grosjean - He got involved early on, but showed brilliant pace and commitment to recover to 6th. That pass on Rosberg into maggotts and becketts, when he just left his foot flat down and let Rosberg avoid a massive crash. That showed balls.

**fandango** · 8th Jul 12, 15:05

It wouldn't surprise me if Maldonado got a one-race ban or at least a suspended ban. He reminds me a little of Irvine pre-Ferrari, with similar cockiness. I like him, but he probably needs his leash yanked.

**Dave B** · 8th Jul 12, 15:09

Originally Posted by henners88

I found it very exciting even if my driver was nowhere in the race.

I always knew you were a closet Petrov fan!

**truefan72** · 8th Jul 12, 15:09

Originally Posted by N4D13

Driver: Webbo
Donkey: anyone who expected this race to be exciting. I don't know about you, but I found it rather boring...

it was a good and entertaining race

seems trendy to come on here and proclaim a race (any race) boring.
I'm not sure if you watched the race, but it was far from boring

I am severely disappointed by the mclaren performance, but I would not call the race boring, with action up and down the grid.

**truefan72** · 8th Jul 12, 15:10

Originally Posted by henners88

I found it very exciting even if my driver was nowhere in the race.

Driver: Webber - Fantastic drive!!

Donkey: Maldonado - It seems every other driver feels his attitude needs to change and I think a drive through was a light slap on the wrist today.

**wedge** · 8th Jul 12, 15:11

Originally Posted by N4D13

Donkey: anyone who expected this race to be exciting. I don't know about you, but I found it rather boring...

It's how F1 should be, IMO.

It should be tense, suspense at something might happen, will happen; not countless meaningless overtakes, say Barcelona.

**steveaki13** · 8th Jul 12, 15:11

Originally Posted by N4D13

Driver: Webbo
Donkey: anyone who expected this race to be exciting. I don't know about you, but I found it rather boring...

The first 20 laps were great. The drivers battled all over the track the track was a challenge and early pitstops mixed it up.

Then the last 30 or so the cars got 3-5 seconds apart and stayed there, intersected only by the odd DRS move.

People on TV always say thank goodness for no rain, but I don't mind admitting I was hoping for a wet race today.

The reason being, Silverstone tends in recent years to be either brilliant or dull. No in between.

Great races recently: 2000,2002,2003,2008,2011.
Dull: 2001,2004,2005,2006,2007,2009,2010.

On balance this was an in between Great first half, dull second half.

**N4D13** · 8th Jul 12, 15:15

Originally Posted by aki13

The first 20 laps were great. The drivers battled all over the track the track was a challenge and early pitstops mixed it up.

Then the last 30 or so the cars got 3-5 seconds apart and stayed there, intersected only by the odd DRS move.

People on TV always say thank goodness for no rain, but I don't mind admitting I was hoping for a wet race today.

The reason being, Silverstone tends in recent years to be either brilliant or dull. No in between.

Great races recently: 2000,2002,2003,2008,2011.
Dull: 2001,2004,2005,2006,2007,2009,2010.

On balance this was an in between Great first half, dull second half.

Yup. It's a shame that I could only remember the latter.

Personally, the thing I care the most is the battle for podium positions, and there didn't seem to be much of it, apart from the Vettel-Massa-Hamilton fight, which was pretty much done after the first pitstops. Even in the end, when Webber was behind Alonso, there was no tension whatsoever - with Webber being between half a second and a second faster, I expected him to get past Alonso in no time.

Edit: come to think about it, the fact that I had to spend something like a third of the race watching advertisements must have played a large part in my boredom.

**steveaki13** · 8th Jul 12, 15:17

What a Donkey I am, I forgot to list my Donkies.

Maldonado - He cracked under pressure again and wiped out Perez.

Sauber - They looked so fast and yet have nothing to show for it.

Kobayashi - For attacking his pit crew.

Rosberg - No pace

**steveaki13** · 8th Jul 12, 15:21

Originally Posted by N4D13

. Even in the end, when Webber was behind Alonso, there was no tension whatsoever - with Webber being between half a second and a second faster, I expected him to get past Alonso in no time.

Thats my thoughts. There was no epic tension of a battle of years past. Will Webber overtake or can Alonso drive a brilliant defensive last 5 laps
? With DRS you no the answer to both.

I no I am going to be hated and given a bashing for saying that.

**Dave B** · 8th Jul 12, 15:24

Originally Posted by aki13

Thats my thoughts. There was no epic tension of a battle of years past. Will Webber overtake or can Alonso drive a brilliant defensive last 5 laps
? With DRS you no the answer to both.

I no I am going to be hated and given a bashing for saying that.

Fortunately today Webber made the pass on Alonso well away from the DRS zone. He did have the advantage of DRS in some previous laps to help him close the gap, but remember that much of the time backmarkers allowed the Ferrari to also use DRS.

**steveaki13** · 8th Jul 12, 15:29

Originally Posted by Dave B

Fortunately today Webber made the pass on Alonso well away from the DRS zone. He did have the advantage of DRS in some previous laps to help him close the gap, but remember that much of the time backmarkers allowed the Ferrari to also use DRS.

Didn't Mark pass him outside of Brooklands after using DRS down the Wellington Straight??