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13th May 12, 14:01 #1
Diamonds and Duds of the Spanish GP (DotD & Donkey) 2012 - Holy Long Title Edition
Duds:
Stewards so far. Almost as bad as the GP2 race.
Button.
McLaren's crew when Hamilton has to stop.Marco Simoncelli 1987-2011
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13th May 12, 15:04 #2
Best driver: Pastor for sure. Fernando, Kimi, Seb and Lewis also drove very well.
Donkey: Bruno, Jenson, Felipe.Formula 1
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13th May 12, 15:06 #3
diamonds:
maldonado
Hamilton
duds:
button
mclaren pit stop crew
marshalls/race control that had the yellow flag out for several laps when the HRT stopped on the front straight, meaning the best chance to overtake was unavaliable to many drivers in a critical phase of race
I mean how difficult was it tp push that hrt out of the way
Massa & Senna as well, but at this point it's barely news
senna's best performance is behind the mic not the wheelyou can't argue with results
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13th May 12, 15:09 #4
Hamilton: Started last and finished 8th.

Button: Qualified 11th, started in 10th, and finished in 9th.
Marco Simoncelli 1987-2011
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13th May 12, 15:11 #5
The best drivers today were Maldonado, Alonso and Hamilton. Maldonado was my DotD, although I must point out that, had it been Vettel, people might have started with the won-from-pole-in-the-fastest car argument. Anyway, congratulations to Pastor, Fernando and Lewis on their excellent races.
I can't single out anyone for donkey of the race this time. I don't really think that anyone did that badly, and I find it hard to disagree with the stewards' decisions. They might have been overly cautious at times (e.g. when they held the yellow flag for long after Karthikeyan stopped on the pit exit), but I understand they did it for safety reasons, and that's paramount.
Last edited by N4D13; 13th May 12 at 15:12. Reason: Spelling: "decisions" for "decisiones"
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13th May 12, 15:18 #6
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But MS was a retirement today,after his collision with Senna,so him and the Mac pit crew again are my Donkeys today !
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13th May 12, 15:21 #7
Faster Pastor for a superb race win. He was mature enough to know he's surrendered the first corner, looked after his tyres and put in a stonking out lap to make his pit strategy work.
Honourable mention to Kimi for another controlled drive to the podium on his remarkable comeback, another lap or two and who knows where he'd have finished?
Also to Hamilton for keeping cool despite a terrible qualifying and yet another botched pitstop, and for looking after his tyres and making a difficult strategy pay off.
Donkeys are whoever designed the RBR's front wing necessitating replacement noses for both drivers, Schumacher for failing to go to Specsavers, and Karthikeyan for getting in everybody's way again. I'd also like to nominate Pic for holding up Alonso (even though I was secretly rather pleased!) and Massa for finishing a lap down on his team mate.Useful F1 Twitter thingy: http://goo.gl/6PO1u
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13th May 12, 15:53 #8
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IIRC, the last time (and perhaps only time) Pastor was in a race-long battle for a big points-scoring opportunity he . . . threw it all away on the last lap dicing with . . . Fernando Alonso.
Looks like the lad learned from his lesson!
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13th May 12, 17:16 #9
Pastor is the DOTD today. Fernando also is a special mention for driving that lump around in the top five.
Donkey is a tie between Senna/Schumacher. Who knows which one was at fault.FGP for 2013 has begun. Stop by and check it out at http://sites.google.com/site/2009fgp/. It is a great place to laugh and unwind from defending your favorite drivers and/or teams. I hope we see you in FGP!
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13th May 12, 17:30 #10
Diamond of the weekend: everybody who picked up a fire extinguisher or first aid kit and rushed to help out at Williams.
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13th May 12, 17:33 #11
The stewards say Schumacher
Michael Schumacher given penalty for Senna collision - F1 FanaticMichael Schumacher will be docked five places on the grid for the Monaco Grand Prix following his collision with Bruno Senna during today’s race.
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13th May 12, 18:16 #12
Donkeys are clearly Massa and Senna. Simple: they were absolutely nowhere in cars, which were fighting for the race win!
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13th May 12, 18:44 #13
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Drivers- Maldonado- fab drive under pressure from Alonso
Donkey- Schumacher- for his crashing into Senna
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13th May 12, 20:57 #14
Diamonds(are not necassarily forever)
Maldonado - Hands down got the Williams up on pole against expectations, then when some including me saw him fading away went and closed down Alonso and jumped him and won with a brilliant drive. Awesome.
Other mentions
Alonso- Drove along with Pastor away from everyone else. Great drive.
Kobayashi- Drove well to more points. Great pass on Rosberg from way behind and also a brilliant move on Button. As Martin Brundle said on commentary "You know when you've been KK'd"
Hamilton - Drove to 8th from 24th. Even better than others as when you get knocked out in Q1 or dont set a time you have no tyres used and full sets for the race, but Hamilton had few new tyres left as he had done a full Quali session.
Kovalainen and Petrov - Dont know exact timings but only finished 1 lap down as did Hulkenberg 10th to Massa 15th. They must have been within a minute of the midfield, which sounds poor, but they haven't often done better. So maybe a small sign of progress."In F1 too many things overshadow the Racing" by Kimi
"Like DRS, soft tyres and "The Show"." by Me
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13th May 12, 21:02 #15
Duds
Not real duds but I did expect better from Lotus, but thats just a small moan.
Real duds Mclaren pit crew - For not moving a tyre out of the way. How many tyre changes have they done before?
Button - Started 10th and finished 9th while Hamilton started 24th and finished 8th, not even with the advantage of sets of tyres to spare. Also his record number of moans over the radio this weekend.
Webber - Had problems but still a poor race.
Massa- Well a lap and a bit behind Alonso which is bad enough but also last of the main runners and not all that far ahead of Caterhams. A joke (More and more it feels like he needs a midseason replacement. He has had poor races before and was outperformed by Alonso last year, but this season is becoming a farce."In F1 too many things overshadow the Racing" by Kimi
"Like DRS, soft tyres and "The Show"." by Me
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13th May 12, 22:07 #16
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Best driver is McDonaldo without doubt. Won the race with pure driving and certainly not clearly faster car than the chasers.
Good were Kobayashi, Vettel, Hamilton. And Alonso of course.
Kimi was fast but not in the right time so it doesnt matter.
Button, Webber, Groesjan just watched the race from close distance without tickets. Bad day for their zodiac signs maybe.
Donkey of the month is Schumacher. Of the race - the usual suspects Rosberg, Massa and McL pit mechanics. And for sure the Ferrari engineer with the ridiculous advice at the end to save the engine for next races. This is probably the last or penultimate opportunity for victory this season and they traded it for slightly faster car in 1 or 2 races. The eventual marketing values are absolutely incomparable.
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13th May 12, 23:57 #17
Maldonado was just exceptional. Very mature performance from a driver who has been very erratic at times. Raikkonen, Hamilton and Alonso were very good as well. Kobayashi did well, as did Vettel, salvaging decent points from not the best of days, again. Webber was quite poor, it must be said, as was Button.
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14th May 12, 03:58 #18
Drivers - Obviously Pastor and Fernando. Honorable mention to Kobayashi for quietly finishing fifth.
Donkeys - MS, Jenson, Massa and SpeedTV for putting on soccer instead of the post race interviews!
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14th May 12, 04:13 #19
Driver: Maldonado (wasn't this guy supposed to be a pay driver?). Honourables to Hamilton and Alonso.
Donkey: Massa (sucked in qualy and was worse in the race, he's driving a car that was capable of winning and he gets lapped?)
I also think the stewards were a bit donkey-ish. I think the penalties handed out the Vettel and Massa weren't really called for and penalising Schumcaher when Senna was moving around in the breaking zone was stupid, in my opinion.Forza Ferrari!!
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14th May 12, 04:47 #20
DotR: Maldonado. I considered him a pay driver, and wasn't sure he would be F1 material. Glad to be eating some humble pie right now.
Honourable mention to: Alonso, Kimi, Seb, Kobayashi and Hamilton.
Donkey: Button, Webber, Massa and Schumacher.Iceman: Adjective 1)Rapid, swift 2)Nickname of Kimi-Matias Rikknen, a legendary Formula 1 driver



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