Did Pirelli go too far?

**ioan** · 26th Apr 12, 23:35

Originally Posted by F1boat

Some people complain that the season is unpredictable? I think that it is because their favorite driver (in the most cases Lewis Hamilton) is not winning and because Seb suddenly won.

Why does this rubbish resurface again and again?!

People simply think that F1 is not about what we see nowadays with crap tires and DRS. It has nothing to do with favorite drivers.

**ioan** · 26th Apr 12, 23:41

Originally Posted by truefan72

I suspect the testing in Mugello will include a lot of tire testing by the teams to find that optimum setup

Difficult. It looks like a difference of 2 degrees Celsius makes a huge difference for these tires. cars that work Saturday will not work on Sunday and the other way around.

**ioan** · 26th Apr 12, 23:44

Originally Posted by truefan72

agreed, but if you were the team what would you do?

Thrive for excellence.
What is so great about beating the competition through use of regulation changes?

**airshifter** · 27th Apr 12, 03:52

Originally Posted by ioan

Why does this rubbish resurface again and again?!

People simply think that F1 is not about what we see nowadays with crap tires and DRS. It has nothing to do with favorite drivers.

In reality what we watch at every race is in fact the real F1 of today. Why does the crap keep coming to the surface about the people that are in denial of reality?

**DexDexter** · 27th Apr 12, 08:45

A couple of my friends who became disinterested with F1 years ago have again started watching the races because they are so exciting. I suspect that's the case for many others as well.

**Knock-on** · 27th Apr 12, 11:24

Originally Posted by ioan

Thrive for excellence.
What is so great about beating the competition through use of regulation changes?

You still here? I thought the door caught your ass on the way out last time.

Stop torturing yourself with all this rubbish and set yourself free. That way you can leave this futile series to those of us that enjoy it.

**ArrowsFA1** · 27th Apr 12, 12:49

"The drivers are fundamental - because they are the sensors in the car and they have to spot when the tyres are going. The trick is spotting when it happens - because drivers can be good at spotting when the problem happens. The key is doing it the lap before."

F1 teams believe that getting strategies perfect will be key in 2012 - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

Good to hear that driver input is significant. For too long the teams seemed to set the strategy and the driver simply had to drive to a pre-set plan until the chequered flag dropped. Not now.

**ioan** · 27th Apr 12, 20:09

Originally Posted by Knock-on

You still here? I thought the door caught your ass on the way out last time.

You thought wrong. The only one who left whining and got hit by the door on his way out was you.

**gloomyDAY** · 27th Apr 12, 23:30

Originally Posted by ioan

You thought wrong. The only one who left whining and got hit by the door on his way out was you.

You make me laugh, man! First you said you'd leave the F1 forums, and now you're trollin' like a villain.

Love it! Stay here forever.

**Fastonslicks** · 28th Apr 12, 07:49

I like it.We ve wait to have an even playing field for a decade or so.I believe that they will be able to fully understand the tyres within 1 or 2 more races so we are in for a cracker.Gonna be a tight battel till the end(Hopefully.

The only negative is the unusual amount of marbles so it is a bit risky to go off the racing line but they all have to deal with it.

Long lasting tyres would mean going backward and see cars turning around and folowing like a train,we dfont want to go back to that right?

**DexDexter** · 28th Apr 12, 13:13

The FIA tried to enhance overtaking and make the races more exciting for years with all sorts of regulation changes and now they've finally come up with rules that work. I don't see it being any more artificial than putting grooves on tyres or introducing refueling. I remember the era of free regulations in the 80's and early 90's and oh boy those races were generally boring.

**ShiftingGears** · 28th Apr 12, 15:52

I don't find the use of the Pirelli tyres artificial as such, I just think the mandatory use of two compounds, and how KERS is implemented, is artificial.

**ioan** · 28th Apr 12, 20:51

Laugh ahead man! Just take care not to choke, it would be a big hit to humanity to lose you.
I said I won't ever watch F1 again, and I didn't and won't do it.
Keep laughing.

**ioan** · 28th Apr 12, 20:52

Originally Posted by Fastonslicks

The only negative is the unusual amount of marbles so it is a bit risky to go off the racing line but they all have to deal with it.

Which obviously doesn't help overtaking. Oh wait...

**BDunnell** · 28th Apr 12, 22:58

Originally Posted by ioan

Laugh ahead man! Just take care not to choke, it would be a big hit to humanity to lose you.
I said I won't ever watch F1 again, and I didn't and won't do it.
Keep laughing.

What you actually said is now in my signature.

**Fastonslicks** · 28th Apr 12, 23:22

Originally Posted by ioan

Which obviously doesn't help overtaking. Oh wait...

Still we had plenty of overtaking in 4 races dont you think?

**jens** · 29th Apr 12, 10:25

Here has been way too much emphasis on personal comments recently. I hope you take notice and act accordingly. In the heat of emotion people have been saying many things. We won't get far if we keep reminding these things all the time.

BDunnell, Pino has recently issued that member quotes shall not be in signatures.

**F1boat** · 29th Apr 12, 16:33

Rosberg now says that tyres make racing challenging and this is great for F1:
Nico Rosberg says challenge of 2012 Pirelli tyres is great for Formula 1 - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

**F1boat** · 29th Apr 12, 18:21

still I am happy to see a driver supporting this tires

**djparky** · 29th Apr 12, 19:29

Originally Posted by DexDexter

The FIA tried to enhance overtaking and make the races more exciting for years with all sorts of regulation changes and now they've finally come up with rules that work. I don't see it being any more artificial than putting grooves on tyres or introducing refueling. I remember the era of free regulations in the 80's and early 90's and oh boy those races were generally boring.

agreed- nor do we want a repeat of that period (minus the trye war years) of 2002-2008 when it was generally follow the leader until an exciting overtake in the pit stops