1st Apr 12, 23:09 #1
Bahrain GP- Will it be Cancelled?
I know there was a thread on this a year ago, but I thought it would be too old to reopen.
I found this article by James Allen on the contigency plans for the Bahrain GP weekend.
Trouble on the ground in BahrainJames Allen on F1
Personally I can't believe this race is ever going to happen.
It shouldn't in my view, but you never know with Bernie.
I know we have discussed it in length before, but this is surely going to overshadow the Chinese weekend, as teams and personel chew over whats going to happen.
So a year on from the cancelled race last year have your views changed?
Should F1 go to Bahrain or not?"In F1 too many things overshadow the Racing" by Kimi
"Like DRS, soft tyres and "The Show"." by Me
1st Apr 12, 23:41 #2
Well, I'm pretty sure almost everyone at here will agree that F1 should NOT go to Bahrain. It would be very dangerous for the sport, the teams and the drivers. Joe Saward has a few articles on this which you might consider reading - I'm just too lazy to put them here, so if you want to read them, you can look for them yourselves.
Now, the real question is - WILL F1 go to Bahrain? And if I were a betting man, I'd be putting my money on that they'd go. It doesn't really look like that the teams are movilizing against the Bahrain race as they did last year, although you can never really know what's going on inside F1. However, the teams haven't said much about this and at this time, their indifference makes me believe that they'll be going to the Bahrain race.
2nd Apr 12, 03:14 #3
I hope so.FGP for 2013 has begun. Stop by and check it out at http://sites.google.com/site/2009fgp/. It is a great place to laugh and unwind from defending your favorite drivers and/or teams. I hope we see you in FGP!
2nd Apr 12, 17:45 #4"In F1 too many things overshadow the Racing" by Kimi
"Like DRS, soft tyres and "The Show"." by Me
3rd Apr 12, 14:18 #5
Nabeel Rajab , president of the Bahrain Centre for Human Rights , said :
"We are going to use the opportunities that a lot of journalists are there and we are going to protest everywhere."
Then , he was arrested .
Who's going to fill the grandstands ?
Saudi troops ?"No pen , no pen ." -what Sato said to me .
3rd Apr 12, 19:47 #6
Politics and Sport should not mix so I say yes as long as it's safe for everyone involved.
If the event is cancelled, then the problems in that country are ignored but if it goes ahead, then the spotlight of the world is on the country which can only help.
3rd Apr 12, 22:12 #7
As long as the organisers are confident that the race is going to be safe then I agree that it should go ahead. If Formula 1 was to refuse to go purely on human rights grounds then surely it shouldn't be going to places such as China either? It's a dangerous game to start and if you play it then where exactly do you draw the line?
4th Apr 12, 04:15 #8
F1 shouldn't be going to Bahrain for a bunch of reasons - insipid circuit, little to no local fan support for example - but I think Knockie is right, politics and sport shouldn't mix. It's not F1's job to police human rights.Forza Ferrari!!
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4th Apr 12, 15:44 #13
Holding a sporting event, especially one as prestigious as F1, would have the effect of belittling the current strife in the country. In effect, demonstrating that the discord in the country is merely a niggling irritant, certainly nothing so troublesome as to warrant cancellation of a major event.“If everything's under control, you're going too slow.” Mario Andretti
4th Apr 12, 16:02 #14
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5th Apr 12, 04:50 #15
And no, this isn't similar to China. While China is not a bright beacon of respect for human rights, it is not killing its citizens in broad daylight for protesting in the streets. The last time it did that was in 1989, and I think it would have been terrible if F1 had gone to China after the Tiananmen square protests and pretended that "F1 shouldn't mix with politics".Iceman: Adjective 1)Rapid, swift 2)Nickname of Kimi-Matias Räikkönen, a legendary Formula 1 driver
5th Apr 12, 04:54 #16
F1 going to Bahrain will be seen as nothing other than endorsement of the current dictatorship ruling the country.Iceman: Adjective 1)Rapid, swift 2)Nickname of Kimi-Matias Räikkönen, a legendary Formula 1 driver
5th Apr 12, 09:48 #17
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Its as if GW Bush claimed that the invasion of Iraq was internationally accepted simply because F1 carried on going to Indy.
When the regime in power actively uses the GP for political purposes then F1 has been politicised. Its that simple. The FIA should use those grounds alone to cancel the GP instead of letting the race be cancelled because of the lack of insurance cover.
Unfortunately though, another thing that has to be recognised is that Bahrain is very much seen as being one of ours. The links between Bahrain and the UK for example are very strong and continue to be so. The royal families of both countries still socialise, and Bahraini officers still come to train in the UK. The message the UK government is sending to Bahrain is very much along the lines of weathering the storm instead of changing or significantly altering the regime in place. The French are little different. For these reasons I expect the FIA to do all in its power to get the race to go ahead.
5th Apr 12, 20:28 #18
I'm tired of the Bahrain talk
I understand the intricacies of the issues but I think that it's been on the calendar now for 2012 and we are close to racing there so let it be.
It was understandable last year, but this year its a different situation. For those who think it legitimizes the government etc, I suspect they would have the same apprehension to other countries hosting GP's with war mongering governments or involved in dicey political matters. Lets try and seperate F1 from the political issues of the country. I know the 2 can be intertwined, but when it comes to Bahrain I feel the west is a bit hypocritical at best and sanctimonious at worst.you can't argue with results
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5th Apr 12, 21:51 #20
It seems that both sides would like the F1 circus to come to town .
The government wants the GP to show the place as , "All systems go , all back to normal" , and the opposing forces want to show the world that this is not the case .
Pretty ironic , if you ask me .
And Bernie wants them all to walk into that snake pit ?
To be sure , all the Bernie cameras will be pointed inward , but the rest will be watching the front gates .
It's gonna be hard to position the race cameras so that no Saudi soldiers are shown .
And , it may be even harder to ensure that no pepper gas floats into the event .
Protesters need only position themselves upwind of the track anywhere to make it unraceable , as the police have no problem spraying the stuff liberally .
They had better start the round-up pretty soon , and they'd better order some more chain-link and razor wire , because they've got a whole population to jail .
Oh , wait , they already have .
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