Thread: Nico Rosberg

I think that Nico is a decent driver, but not a great driver. Like Alesi, Trulli or Heidfeld. He may become better if he wins, but for now I think that he chokes under pressure and his biggest achievement is beating an old driver who is way, way past his prime. Besides, the gap between Rosberg jr and Michael was smaller in 2011 then in 2010 and now maybe it will get even smaller or Michael will beat him. This means that Rosberg jr. doesn't develop very much as a driver. He has some occasional flashes of brilliance, but I think that he is not a world-beater.

Originally Posted by Knock-on

Yep, fair enough. I was thnking Patrese and Rubens as well but just opted for Trulli as an example.

You know, if Rosberg wants to be considered in that same category, he actually needs to win races. Even Jarno won a GP, something that can't be said of Rosberg (yet)

Originally Posted by George6890

Hey! What's wrong with Jarno?! He had the legs on Alonso in 2004, I doubt Rosberg would have managed that in that twitchy R24.

A good point, and one that most people forget. Jarno beat Alonso fair and square in 2004, despite Flavio's antics.

Would anyone like to make a retraction?

No. We, the armchair experts, are very demanding people. We expect only the best from everyone else.

Originally Posted by call_me_andrew

Would anyone like to make a retraction?

Originally Posted by Knock-on

It may come as no surprise that I don't consider Schumacher to be in the top echelon of the current crop of drivers anyway. He retired a couple of years after his peak and should have stayed retired. He's ok at peddling a car around the track but he thinks he's as quick as he used to be. There are also a few very good drivers around that would have been at least on par with him in his hey-day. We know who they are.

This leaves us with Nico.

I was one of the few people that claimed that Nico would hand Schumacher his ass on a plate and of course, I was accused of being a hater etc., etc. No humble pie thread for me ioan However, I don't rate Nico too highly either. One of the pundits summed it up well the other day when they said Nico will drive to the cars capability but no further. He's never going to get that additional 1% like Alonso or Lewis will but will be a good mid-level driver for a number of years.

Bit of a Trulli.

I've already retracted by saying comparing him to Trulli was a bit harsh. Rubens would be a better comparison

What Nico did on Sunday was drive the car to the maximum. It was a very fast car and should have been a Mercedes 1 / 2. A competent drive in F1 should do no less. Everything else I said I stand by 100%

Originally Posted by Knock-on

I've already retracted by saying comparing him to Trulli was a bit harsh. Rubens would be a better comparison

What Nico did on Sunday was drive the car to the maximum. It was a very fast car and should have been a Mercedes 1 / 2. A competent drive in F1 should do no less. Everything else I said I stand by 100%

Forgive me if you dint mean this, but are you suggesting Schumacher should have jumped out of the car fixed his wheel nut and got back to racing?




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That's not how I read it. It should have been a Merc 1-2 if it wasn't for the pit crew.

Originally Posted by call_me_andrew

Would anyone like to make a retraction?

Yes. Me. I was surprised that he kept his cool and won so convincingly. Now maybe he will be more relaxed and more success will come.

Originally Posted by i_max2k2

Forgive me if you dint mean this, but are you suggesting Schumacher should have jumped out of the car fixed his wheel nut and got back to racing?




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Are you being serious? Of course he should, and he should have had a bacon butty (religious beliefs permitting, of course) with greasy fingers before he carried on to p2!!!

Originally Posted by i_max2k2

Forgive me if you dint mean this, but are you suggesting Schumacher should have jumped out of the car fixed his wheel nut and got back to racing?




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All I was saying was that the Mercedes was head and shoulders above the rest of the field and any of the top 10 drivers out there should have peddled them to the 1st and 2nd positions. The only reason it didn't happen was because of a mechanical DNF of Schumachers car.

Originally Posted by Knock-on

All I was saying was that the Mercedes was head and shoulders above the rest of the field and any of the top 10 drivers out there should have peddled them to the 1st and 2nd positions. The only reason it didn't happen was because of a mechanical DNF of Schumachers car.

I read it the other way round, thats why I said forgive me if I dint read it right, there are plenty of schumacher haters who somehow always blame it on him, one way or another.

Originally Posted by Knock-on

All I was saying was that the Mercedes was head and shoulders above the rest of the field and any of the top 10 drivers out there should have peddled them to the 1st and 2nd positions.

I'm not so sure that Mercedes was clearly above others in race trim. Had Button and Hamilton not been stuck in traffic, they may well have beaten Rosberg. But as it was, 5-place grid penalty and botched pitstop dropped both McLaren drivers further behind.

Originally Posted by jens

I'm not so sure that Mercedes was clearly above others in race trim. Had Button and Hamilton not been stuck in traffic, they may well have beaten Rosberg. But as it was, 5-place grid penalty and botched pitstop dropped both McLaren drivers further behind.

I agree...

Originally Posted by Knock-on

However, I don't rate Nico too highly either. One of the pundits summed it up well the other day when they said Nico will drive to the cars capability but no further. He's never going to get that additional 1% like Alonso or Lewis will but will be a good mid-level driver for a number of years.

Bit of a Trulli.

No driver, not Alonso, not Lewis, not Senna, not Schumacher, will ever drive the car faster than it is capable of.

Originally Posted by jens

I'm not so sure that Mercedes was clearly above others in race trim. Had Button and Hamilton not been stuck in traffic, they may well have beaten Rosberg. But as it was, 5-place grid penalty and botched pitstop dropped both McLaren drivers further behind.

McLaren was not faster than Mercedes at China, no way. Some people have gotten it in their heads that McLaren is the fastest car and reality seems irrelevant.

Ok Garry. what i mean is that drivers like Lewis and Fred seem capable of wringing performances out of the car that others cant.

Originally Posted by Knock-on

Ok Garry. what i mean is that drivers like Lewis and Fred seem capable of wringing performances out of the car that others cant.

That probably says more about their team mates, certainly in the case of Alonso. But remember when Rosberg was consistently whooping Nakajima, week in week out, and the Japanese driver was being slated? I said at the time that perhaps Rosberg was better then he was being given credit for. I said the same when others were saying that Schumacher had lost it. I've had faith in Nico for a while now and it looks as if I may have been justified.

Ive had faith in him since this race Singapore 2008 - classification

Thing is in that race Nico got a 10sec penalty for refuelling when pitlane was closed. Still got that 2nd place.
And we all know who benefited the most of the first SC.

Did he make a mistake yesterday or the Merc was simply slow?