Thread: Felipe Massa

Originally Posted by Bagwan

3. Wise enough not to challenge Alonso in any way
7. Will drive for free
8. Can develop the car for Fernando
9. Recently drove for Ferrari
10. Strong sentimental favourite name

Jacques Villeneuve .

Sometimes, it's like a distant family meet up - all the same conversations as the last meet up......

Originally Posted by Bagwan

Jacques Villeneuve .

I knew it, I knew it, I knew it.

Just couldn't stop yourself, could you?

I think that if Massa doesn't buck his ideas up in the next 2 GP's then he's history. I will be very sad to see this happen because IMHO he's doing a great job. Just what I think Ferrari deserve

More Donkey Derby than Prancing Horse

If I were Stefano Domenicali, I would try to hire Rubens Barrichello. I think he's a great driver, and he also has a strong connection with Ferrari.

Originally Posted by Knock-on

I think that if Massa doesn't buck his ideas up in the next 2 GP's then he's history. I will be very sad to see this happen because IMHO he's doing a great job. Just what I think Ferrari deserve

More Donkey Derby than Prancing Horse

Not like McLaren whose pit work has more closely resembles the Keystone Cops! :

Originally Posted by Dr Giacomo Rappaccini

Not like McLaren whose pit work has more closely resembles the Keystone Cops! :

As i read this, i see an advertisement for McLaren's new book: The Art of racing! on the top of the page. Lmao. There could not have been a worse time to bring that book to the market than right now!!!

What's next? Williams publishes: "How to be cool in the pits!"
Mercedes: "How to get the best out of the Pirellis!"
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Originally Posted by Knock-on

Rubens?

Yes! He would be perfect. Knows Ferrari, and is still quick.

Originally Posted by Mark

Yes! He would be perfect. Knows Ferrari, and is still quick.

But he's not a long-term solution. He'd stick around until the end of 2013 at the most and then Ferrari would be left looking for another driver.

Stick either of the Sauber drivers in the car NOW and if they do a Fisichella or Badoer impression then it won't be any worse than Massa but at least they've got the rest of the season to learn the car in anticipation of next year. They'll be so grateful for the drive they won't mind being Alonso's lapdog, and they've plenty of life in them so that when Alonso hangs up his helmet there'll still be some continuity.

Sutil's a sensible choice for the same reason, but old-timers like Rubens, Jarno or (heaven help us) Jacques just wouldn't be worth the aggravation.

I would assume anyone going into the car now would leave at the end of 2012 anyway, as Ferrari are likely going to want a driver who is currently driving for another team. So Rubens would be a perfect stop gap for the rest of 2012.

Please no rubens the whiner barrichello!!!

Originally Posted by Dr Giacomo Rappaccini

Not like McLaren whose pit work has more closely resembles the Keystone Cops! :

I can't argue with that. What is causing the problems is beyond me. AFAIK there is no difference between the wheel nuts, hubs and wheels from last year and there wsn't any problem with them.

The gun engages the wheel by locating pins in the wheel nut and the nut is held in place in the socket by 3 ball bearings locating to hold it in place during removal. The nut then locates over a domed end to the hub assembly and a collar slides into the wheel to ensure there is no opportunity for it to be mis-aligned. It is a very smple and failsafe arrangement and is designed to be so.

Short of not torquing the nut up enough, the only way it cannot locate properly is if the wheel isn't located in the first place on locating studs in the hub which slot into the wheel. This I think may be a possibility but unlikely because it's easy for the wheel man to fit the wheel with a slight wiggle at the end which locates it on the pins. The McLaren boys practice this continuously and it's inconeivable that it's this.

I am honestly at a loss to explain the continuing issues McLaren seem to be having.

Originally Posted by Knock-on

I am honestly at a loss to explain the continuing issues McLaren seem to be having.

The explanation is simple; they have hellhounds on their trail

Originally Posted by Knock-on

I can't argue with that. What is causing the problems is beyond me. AFAIK there is no difference between the wheel nuts, hubs and wheels from last year and there wsn't any problem with them.

The gun engages the wheel by locating pins in the wheel nut and the nut is held in place in the socket by 3 ball bearings locating to hold it in place during removal. The nut then locates over a domed end to the hub assembly and a collar slides into the wheel to ensure there is no opportunity for it to be mis-aligned. It is a very smple and failsafe arrangement and is designed to be so.

Short of not torquing the nut up enough, the only way it cannot locate properly is if the wheel isn't located in the first place on locating studs in the hub which slot into the wheel. This I think may be a possibility but unlikely because it's easy for the wheel man to fit the wheel with a slight wiggle at the end which locates it on the pins. The McLaren boys practice this continuously and it's inconeivable that it's this.

I am honestly at a loss to explain the continuing issues McLaren seem to be having.

Gosh , if even you are at a loss to explain it , what chance does McLaren have ?

Sarky git

I'm reading at the bottom of this page "[h=sitors found this page by searching for:]4[/h][h=felipe massa fired]2[/h], [h=felipe massa sacked]2[/h],"

Lol! What is going on here? Er, has anyone been web trawling and found any Massa excuses? Not that I dislike the bloke, but I would like to know what is going on and why he is at one end of the grid and why his team mate is at the other!

Originally Posted by tfp

I would like to know what is going on and why he is at one end of the grid and why his team mate is at the other!

Is this a trick question?
If not I suggest you watch quali' and the races, that should give you a hint

Originally Posted by Mark

Yes! He would be perfect. Knows Ferrari

I thought that was the problem, that he knows Ferrari too well. I don't think there's much mutual admiration going on there. I don't think Rubens will take up a Ferrari drive when he has his feet under the table over in indycar.

I do think Ferrari will stick with Massa at least till the end of 2012, its going to be too difficult to find someone else who will do a better job of getting to grips with the Ferrari (which Massa has failed to do despite a decade of F1 experience and months in the car) and who they'll be happy to keep on for a few more years or who will be happy to be dumped at the end of the season for a long term solution.

Originally Posted by Malbec

I thought that was the problem, that he knows Ferrari too well. I don't think there's much mutual admiration going on there. I don't think Rubens will take up a Ferrari drive

Rubens Barrichello open to returning to F1 if Ferrari calls

"I want the fans to understand that I don't have any hard feelings," Barrichello said. "If (Ferrari) called me today to go drive for them I would go. It was the best team I've ever driven for in terms of support, of creativity.

Rubens Barrichello Would Return to Formula 1 If He Could: A Fan

Rubens Barrichello has indicated that he would pretty much jump at the chance to rejoin the Formula 1 series if Ferrari would just call him. Though he currently races for IndyCar team KV Racing, it appears that he would abandon the series given an opportunity to return to Ferrari in Formula 1

I think he might consider it

I really, really hope that he won't return He badmouthed Ferrari pretty badly and ALWAYS whines.