16th Apr 12, 12:52 #221
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16th Apr 12, 13:01 #222
Unfortunately he doesn't come across as being professional in BTCC and made quite a few errors and an over reliance on his notes. Ben Edwards has commentated on various forms of motorsport, David Croft not only commentated on F1 but FIA GTs as well as darts and boxing and have been consummate professionals.The world according to Taki Inoue: https://mobile.twitter.com/takiinoue/status/301406167249326080
17th Apr 12, 09:09 #223
17th Apr 12, 12:01 #224
But Ecclestone revealed: “They [The BBC] had a contract in force already, from 2012 all the way through to 2014.
“They got to grips with Sky themselves. I spoke with ITV too, and came up with the same problem as Channel 4 had. We had a contract with the BBC which didn’t run out until 2014.
“We couldn’t very well do a deal with other people for them to start doing *something next year, because we had that contract.
“Other broadcasters wouldn’t want to wait until 2014 to decide what they wanted to pay.”
The F1 supremo believes the BBC – led by Director of Sport Barbara Slater – were looking to make savings in the region of £25million a year.
They wanted to renegotiate their broadcasting rights into a shared deal with another network, but simply didn’t want to share the sport with a terrestrial rival.
Asked whether the BBC “held all the cards” over the new deal, he added: “Yes, absolutely. If they [Channel 4] had said they wanted to sign a contract today to start broadcasting for £45m a year, then we would have probably done it.
“But that’s the problem. We couldn’t deal with them, even if they had wanted to.”
Formula One supremo Bernie Ecclestone: My hands were tied over BBC/Sky deal - Mirror Online
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17th Apr 12, 12:08 #225The one about the f-ing hairdresser, the space hairdresser & the cowboy. The guy, he's got a tin foil pal & a pedal bin. His father's a robot & he's f-ing f-d his sister. Lego! They're all made of f-ing lego.
18th Apr 12, 00:10 #226
Of course Bernie's reaction to the deal is a PR stunt to make himself look less evil. He usually speaks cryptically when he knows he holds the trump card but with the BBC/Sky deal Bernie doesn't because he gains little from the deal.
It's the BBC who holds the trump card with their FTA rights.The world according to Taki Inoue: https://mobile.twitter.com/takiinoue/status/301406167249326080
18th Apr 12, 11:59 #227
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The people I mainly blame are the ones who decided it would be a good idea for the BBC to spunk a billion quid of licence-payers' money on relocating half their operation to Manchester. That wasn't the BBC by the way.
It's true that the BBC got to decide where to make the budget cuts to pay for it, and while we might not like what they chose to cut, they do have other viewers to consider too. Many of those viewers prefer Eastenders and The Antiques Roadshow to F1. Why, I can't imagine, but there it is.
18th Apr 12, 12:22 #228Riccardo Patrese - 256GPs 1977-1993
18th Apr 12, 14:08 #229
And of course Bernie supports it, he wants a resolution to the TV rights. He'll support any deal and spin it to make the sport look good. If it's BBC and another terrestrial network then its great for the general public, if its BBC & Sky then it great for giving greater coverage of F1.The world according to Taki Inoue: https://mobile.twitter.com/takiinoue/status/301406167249326080
18th Apr 12, 23:19 #230
There is one thing I have noticed (its sort of stupid in one way but common) in all 3 races, watch the driver interviews in the pen on the BBC's coverage, i dont know if its a pre-arranged spot in the line or broadcasters get to pick and choose whey they want to be situated but Natalie Pinkham (the Sky Sports pit interviewer) always seems to manage to get herself into the background for every pen interview Lee McKenzie does (you can see it clearly in the China forum) it might sound daft but maybe trying to give her channel a bit of a plug on its main rival perhaps?"Alboreto, into the pits, and im going to stop the startwatch" (Murray Walker, Monaco 1987)
21st Apr 12, 13:33 #231
Is Martin Brundle alright? I don't think he's mentioned that he drove the Ferrari once all day. He normally brings the subject up at least twice per session
21st Apr 12, 15:00 #232
Now comes the real test of whether BBC's highlights package will work out.
80mins of race day of coverage for Bahrain, as opposed to 2 hrs for the flyaways.
I wonder if we'll still get the full 70mins of highlights?The world according to Taki Inoue: https://mobile.twitter.com/takiinoue/status/301406167249326080
22nd Apr 12, 22:33 #233
Apologies in advance for posting something off topic, the thread about cancelling Bahrain was closed before I had a chance to post this so I'll use this thread as my platform. I want to tip my hat to those that did not watch the race for philosophical and humanitarian reasons. You have my admiration.
CheersThose who believe in telekinetics raise my hand.
23rd Apr 12, 00:22 #234
23rd Apr 12, 00:25 #235
Anyone happy with the 50mins coverage? I wasn't. Chop off post-race stuff for more race action unless this is part of the deal for continental/Euro-friendly races.The world according to Taki Inoue: https://mobile.twitter.com/takiinoue/status/301406167249326080
24th Apr 12, 13:15 #236
Ch4 bid is roughly the same amount as Sky so Bernie gains very little.
If Ch4 & BBC showed F1 then it gives Ch4 some leverage in the negotiating table in the next round of negotiations. If you were on the BBC would you want this? Of course not, so what's the next best thing? You go off and make a deal with Sky.The world according to Taki Inoue: https://mobile.twitter.com/takiinoue/status/301406167249326080
24th Apr 12, 13:29 #237
13th May 12, 16:08 #238
I had both broadcasts on today, relying mainly on Sky for commentary, and they seem to have upped their game. The Beeb were continuing their trend of desperately trying to shoehorn the Olympics into everything during the buildup, whereas Sky cut back on the pointless VTs and provided a solid 90 minutes of interviews and relevant features - with the notable exception of Georgie sightseeing in Barcelona.
During the race the Beeb's red button coverage of the onboards totally missed the first few laps, then had an unnecessarily large PiP window blocking the view and some very odd placement of the lap counter and results ticker.
13th May 12, 16:12 #239
I think the BBC's coverage is at least on par with their coverage from last year, which is good to see. I haven't watched any Sky coverage this year so I'm happy the BBC aren't cutting back yet.
13th May 12, 17:36 #240
Sky went off air while covering the pit lane fire. Why? For some documentary they'd shown 500 times already.
I thought the idea of a dedicated channel was that you didn't have to go off air due to some other broadcast.