Thread: Return of the French GP
12th Mar 09, 21:10 #1
Return of the French GP
Anyone got a track plan?All other opinions are wrong....
12th Mar 09, 21:16 #2All other opinions are wrong....
12th Mar 09, 21:21 #3
First impression not too good.
Not to much in the way of gradient change by the looks of it, plus the main overtaking spot has the same problem of Mangy Cours - a huge braking zone led into by a very long sweeping righthander.
Hopefully the pictures are misleading and its going to be a decent track - France needs to be on the calender.All other opinions are wrong....
12th Mar 09, 23:47 #4
13th Mar 09, 00:38 #5
16th Mar 09, 03:22 #6
Thug..there isn't any. Imagination in race course design seems to be limited to engineered to death snore fests. You look at Spa or a street course and you see cars being forced to go places they don't want to go in a natural fashion. All the new circuits, whether they are done by Tilke or anyone else seem to be all the same. Computer generated go-kart tracks.
The fact that the French are going through this crap is nonsense to start. Magny Cours was supposed to be the state of the art facility wise and now Bernie says it isnt up to snuff. He takes away the USGP and Canadian GP because basically he hasn't gotten enough gelt from either nation to keep the GP's there. He takes off from Magny Cours because it doesn't meet his "standard" while they moved it there from Paul Ricard saying it was too far in the bushes and the facilities were substandard. At some point, shouldn't someone tell Bernie to shut the hell up and go count his money?
I am tired of seeing GP's moved to sanitary boring circuits. This one is more of the same. It is one I only pay minor attention to F1 whereas I used to be very tuned into the WDC. Enough already....put decent facilities in a classic French circuit and run a French GP. How can you have the F1 world championship without a French GP? Stupide as the French would say....."Water for my horses, beer for my men and mud for my turtle".
16th Mar 09, 03:49 #7Those who believe in telekinetics raise my hand.
16th Mar 09, 07:27 #8
Im actually impressed by the track layout of this new place. I know its flat but some of the corners look intresting, and I like the idea of the lakes there aswell.Congratulations Sebastian Vettel. Champion of the season of seasons.
16th Mar 09, 17:18 #9"Water for my horses, beer for my men and mud for my turtle".
16th Mar 09, 19:57 #10All other opinions are wrong....
16th Mar 09, 21:00 #11
A better explanation of the pros & cons of this new track...
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21245.htmlDefend mediocrity... because excelence is just too hard to achieve.
16th Mar 09, 22:59 #12
Well, that looks inspired. Not. Magny-Cours wasn't terribly exciting, but could have been improved if they'd removed the two "infield" chicanes. Not that it will ever be anything special, but still. Paul Ricard wasn't a terribly exciting track, and the Bugatti course at Le Mans isn't good enough layout wise right now. If that could be changed (extending the final straight a bit down towards Maison Blanche would be a start), Le Mans would certainly be my pick for the GP.
17th Mar 09, 00:22 #13
Magny Cours I have a soft spot for, even though the racing can be very dull in real life.
Estoril is a fantastic high speed corner, Adelaide is the best spot for overtaking and the Imola chicane is hugely under-rated from a fans' POV - its like a minuscule version of Eau Rouge.
Also I used to love the final Lycee section. Very technical and tricky Mickey Mouse section - really enjoyed it on computer games because you could make up a bit of time nailed it right.The world according to Taki Inoue: https://mobile.twitter.com/takiinoue/status/301406167249326080
17th Mar 09, 12:39 #14
I want to know when the promoters are going to stop beating around hte bush and demand Bernie starts cutting costs. They are making drastic cost cutting changes for the teams to remain, When the hell are they goig to address the real issue with these tracks?? Bernie is guilty of outright extortion, ESPECIALLY in this economy. We wouldn't even be talking about replacing tracks like Magny Cour, silverstone, Hochenheim, Montreal, Nurburgring, etc.... There's nothing wrong with any of those tracks, they simply can't pay Bernie's ransome, and they have allowed the performance of the cars to outpace the tracks. They made changes in the cars, but IMHO, they haven't touched the real problem- Bernie's budget.HINCHTOWN!!
17th Mar 09, 12:52 #15
Those who believe in telekinetics raise my hand.
17th Mar 09, 13:26 #16
Bernie's already trying to wiggle out of the Donny deal. If they slip a mm he will use it as an excuse to can the British GP