Thread: F1 = Watersport
16th Sep 08, 00:46 #21
Senna in Monaco in 1984 - you can't honestly tell me that that Toleman was a world beater. It was Ayrton himself that drove the wheels of that car, not the Toleman being brilliant in the wet.
Likewise Senna's drive at Donington in 1993 was brilliant and again because of Senna being brilliant, not the McLaren which by all accounts if not for Senna was a dog turd on a stick.
Schumacher's drive in the European Grand Prix of 2000 had nothing to do with the Ferrari he was driving, at one stage he was 50 seconds ahead of Hakkinen who looked distant and out of his depth. The only reason why the margin at the end was only 13 seconds was because he dawdled across the line and drive near the pit wall for the team - the offcial race result belies the fact that Schumacher in the rain was pure magic (the Ferrari was irrelevant).
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16th Sep 08, 01:40 #22
16th Sep 08, 02:15 #23
Interchangable conditions have always been a part of grand prix racing. That means there may be more wet grands prix in some seasons than others - it doesn't matter.
I would hope we can agree on that. That's not what they are build for. They could be "adapted" to be racing in the rain, but that's not their main purpose.) Maybe from now on it would be, since Ferrari is suffering so much.
Ferrari's problem is that the car is at a disadvantage, moreso than McLaren, in cold and wet conditions.
And what I also am saying is that too many rainy GP's could crown champion a driver who otherwise would not have won if there would have been less wet GPs.
If a driver/team adapts to the conditions presented to them better than any other driver/team then they deserve to win.Formerly known as theugsquirrel
16th Sep 08, 03:32 #24
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17th Sep 08, 02:14 #26
Anyway, the performance parameters within which F1, Champ Cars and Le Mans cars are built include the capability to race in wet conditions. Unless God tips off certain teams or drivers, and not others, that it is going to rain during a given number of races in a particular season, I don't quite understand what this thread is even about. Ferrari has more than adequate engineering resources to adapt to the conditions that every other team faces during a race. Kimi is the highest paid driver in F1 and this isn't Felipe's first rodeo. So all I can do is play my violin for them:
"Every generation's memory is exactly as long as its own experience." --John Kenneth Galbraith
17th Sep 08, 02:31 #27"Every generation's memory is exactly as long as its own experience." --John Kenneth Galbraith
17th Sep 08, 13:39 #28
I bet theres going to be rain in at least one of the four remaining grands prix.Formerly known as theugsquirrel
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