Did Team Kimi Choke:)

**Mr Alca-Tazizzle** · 15th Mar 08, 12:23

I'm using the term loosely. But, I was the one on this forum that first used that term in connection to how Hamilton lost the wdc last season. So turnabout is fair play! Kimi and his support team watching telemetry in the pits knew when they lost the fire in the F2008, and where they were on the track. IYO do you think they should have been more reticent of this, and the inertia needed to roll safely to the pits. They never played any radio transmission during the broadcast. But it was evident that they had lost ignition in a top gear, and the onboard clearly indicated that Kimi downshifted through several gears (trying to get it to re-ignite) before dropping it into neutral and coasting! Hindsight is 20/20, but Kimi was already through to Q3,
and only needed to get back to the pit. Whether or not they could have solved this problem in time to get Kimi running in time for Q3 is another question (and another opportunity to choke

) Lads every point counts toward the final standing. Was this an event that should have been avoided. I wonder if a Jean Todt or Ross Brawn led Ferrari team would have let this unfortunate incident occur? :O

**SGWilko** · 15th Mar 08, 16:13

Originally Posted by Tazio

I'm using the term loosely. But, I was the one on this forum that first used that term in connection to how Hamilton lost the wdc last season. So turnabout is fair play! Kimi and his support team watching telemetry in the pits knew when they lost the fire in the F2008, and where they were on the track. IYO do you think they should have been more reticent of this, and the inertia needed to roll safely to the pits. They never played any radio transmission during the broadcast. But it was evident that they had lost ignition in a top gear, and the onboard clearly indicated that Kimi downshifted through several gears (trying to get it to re-ignite) before dropping it into neutral and coasting! Hindsight is 20/20, but Kimi was already through to Q3,
and only needed to get back to the pit. Whether or not they could have solved this problem in time to get Kimi running in time for Q3 is another question (and another opportunity to choke

) Lads every point counts toward the final standing. Was this an event that should have been avoided. I wonder if a Jean Todt or Ross Brawn led Ferrari team would have let this unfortunate incident occur? :O

Hindsight is indeed a wonderful thing.....

Best get your bad luck out the way in the first race, not the last two.....

Kimi could be the one to watch tomorrow......

**SGWilko** · 15th Mar 08, 16:27

Originally Posted by Tazio

I'm using the term loosely. But, I was the one on this forum that first used that term in connection to how Hamilton lost the wdc last season. So turnabout is fair play! Kimi and his support team watching telemetry in the pits knew when they lost the fire in the F2008, and where they were on the track. IYO do you think they should have been more reticent of this, and the inertia needed to roll safely to the pits. They never played any radio transmission during the broadcast. But it was evident that they had lost ignition in a top gear, and the onboard clearly indicated that Kimi downshifted through several gears (trying to get it to re-ignite) before dropping it into neutral and coasting! Hindsight is 20/20, but Kimi was already through to Q3,
and only needed to get back to the pit. Whether or not they could have solved this problem in time to get Kimi running in time for Q3 is another question (and another opportunity to choke

) Lads every point counts toward the final standing. Was this an event that should have been avoided. I wonder if a Jean Todt or Ross Brawn led Ferrari team would have let this unfortunate incident occur? :O

Just watching qually again with the trouble and strife, and kimi made AT LEAST three downshifts (probably four) - that is indeed a whole bunch of speed lost........

Of course, I could suggest (with tongue firmly in cheek) that perhaps, he might have pressed the wrong button on his steering wheel......

or is this the bug in the ECU?

Or due to McLaren being in the fifth pit?

or because Ron is still at the helm..........?

or cheap Kool Aid?

...........

**Kevincal** · 15th Mar 08, 16:37

Since when do we say a driver choked when they had a mechanical problem? I'm sure Kimi didn't know exactly what was wrong when his car started to screw up. He was more focused on getting out of the way of the other drivers, as he should.

**SGWilko** · 15th Mar 08, 16:39

Originally Posted by Kevincal

Since when do we say a driver choked when they had a mechanical problem?

I would imagine since Brazil '07?

**Mr Alca-Tazizzle** · 15th Mar 08, 16:57

Originally Posted by SGWilko

Just watching qually again with the trouble and strife, and kimi made AT LEAST three downshifts (probably four) - that is indeed a whole bunch of speed lost........

Of course, I could suggest (with tongue firmly in cheek) that perhaps, he might have pressed the wrong button on his steering wheel......

or is this the bug in the ECU?

Or due to McLaren being in the fifth pit?

or because Ron is still at the helm..........?

or cheap Kool Aid?

...........

There are other factors as well:

The circumference of the earth

The lunar phase

Being south of the equator

And the relative position of Betelgeuse

**SGWilko** · 15th Mar 08, 17:00

Originally Posted by Tazio

There are other factors as well:
The lunar phase

Rings round uranus???

**Kevincal** · 15th Mar 08, 17:40

Originally Posted by SGWilko

I would imagine since Brazil '07?

Except in that case, Hamilton managed to accidentally hit his pit lane speed limiter, which took him a good 20 seconds to figure out.

**Mr Alca-Tazizzle** · 15th Mar 08, 17:42

Originally Posted by SGWilko

Rings round uranus???

Or yours!!!!!!!

**SGWilko** · 15th Mar 08, 17:52

Originally Posted by Kevincal

Except in that case, Hamilton managed to accidentally hit his pit lane speed limiter, which took him a good 20 seconds to figure out.

Nice try. You have to hold the button in for it to work,(evidenced by drivers who get pit speed penalty's and admit they let the button go too soon) and what also happens when you do this, but didn't happen to Lewis' car in Brazil?....clue - fuel flap..

So I think we can finally lay thay myth to rest can't we now...?

**markabilly** · 15th Mar 08, 18:43

Originally Posted by SGWilko

Just watching qually again with the trouble and strife, and kimi made AT LEAST three downshifts (probably four) - that is indeed a whole bunch of speed lost........

Of course, I could suggest (with tongue firmly in cheek) that perhaps, he might have pressed the wrong button on his steering wheel......

or is this the bug in the ECU?

Or due to McLaren being in the fifth pit?

or because Ron is still at the helm..........?

or cheap Kool Aid?

...........

Well, Kimi is reputed to be quite a drinker, and if someone slipped him a "Mickey" in this case composed of some hard core Kool Aid, it can affect even the toughest when ingested in sufficient quanitites.....he might even begin to think that MacCheats is really "Team Intergrity"

Just look at Wilko, True fan and others to see what happens when kool aid is consumed in suffcient amounts........As the good reverend Jimmie Jones said as he handed it out, "Drink up....

**SGWilko** · 15th Mar 08, 18:50

Originally Posted by markabilly

"Drink up....

Mind if I don't, we're not all sheep.......

**markabilly** · 15th Mar 08, 18:56

Originally Posted by SGWilko

Mind if I don't, we're not all sheep.......

Come on now, one of the first signs of addiction is denial of a problem and demonstrating blind loyalty to team mac.....I would suggest drinking a little less kool aid and more beer in the morning....after you been off the aid, you go from being blind to seeing red....

**SGWilko** · 15th Mar 08, 18:59

Originally Posted by markabilly

Come on now, one of the first signs of addiction is denial of a problem and demonstrating blind loyalty to team mac.....I would suggest drinking a little less kool aid and more beer in the morning....after you been off the aid, you go from being blind to seeing red....

Isn't there something else that is supposed to make you go blind if done to excess?

PS I'm over here fella.......

**markabilly** · 15th Mar 08, 19:06

Originally Posted by SGWilko

Isn't there something else that is supposed to make you go blind if done to excess?

PS I'm over here fella.......

Yeah well, I don't do that...............................as much as I deserve....

**SGWilko** · 15th Mar 08, 19:10

Originally Posted by markabilly

Yeah well, I don't do that...............................as much as I deserve....

No, not there, over here. Eye trouble?

**markabilly** · 15th Mar 08, 19:15

Originally Posted by SGWilko

No, not there, over here. Eye trouble?

i was refferring to the first question. As to your personal needs, i say, every man for himself.........or smoke them if you got them

**SGWilko** · 15th Mar 08, 19:19

Originally Posted by markabilly

i was refferring to the first question. As to your personal needs, i say, every man for himself.........or smoke them if you got them

Not the sheep, please no, surely not?

**markabilly** · 15th Mar 08, 19:28

Originally Posted by SGWilko

Not the sheep, please no, surely not?

Okay okay, I will leave your girlfriends alone. Don't worry,

**PSfan** · 15th Mar 08, 19:51

Well, steping aside what markabilly does or doesn't do in his spare time, and what SGWilko drinks or doesn't...

Was there anything preventing Kimi from getting out and pushing the car over the line himself? I do recall an incident where a driver pushed his car back into the pit after having trouble on the exit... Was this a matter of the Ferrari pit crew being a little to eager? or is there rules that prevented kimi from doing so?

of course, after seeing kimi's arms in the kiss pics I have my doubts if he could push the car any significant distance