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  • YES; I am a theist.

    20 27.03%

  • PROBABLY YES; I'm an agnostic theist.

    3 4.05%

  • PROBABLY NOT; I'm an agnostic atheist.

    7 9.46%

  • NO; I'm an atheist.

    34 45.95%

  • Who cares? I don't.

    10 13.51%
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  1. 2nd Mar 12, 15:31 #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz View Post
    God has no denomination. People do. From their point of view their denomination is right, others are wrong. The difference is the level of tolerance.
    That's if you believe there is only one God.

    For example, a fundemental difference between Muslim and Christian faiths is that of Jesus being the Son of God or just another Prophet. If Jesus is the Son then surely, although Christianity is a new fangled religion, it is the only true one. However, if this isn't the case, then the Christian faith is rather a sham isn't it?

    Then we can look at other religions that believe in multiple Gods and not one divine being. Look at one of the more established religions based in Anciant Egypt where there are multiple Gods but include the creator, Ra (Re) or the Sun God. Are they wrong?

    We could go all the way back to symbolism but there's little point.

    So, if there is a creator, it's unlikely he, she or it is religious but more likely to be an energy or creative source IMHO and therefore religion is nothing more than a belief of a communal code of behaviour.
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  2. 2nd Mar 12, 15:49 #42
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    If there is a God then who created God?
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    Steve Jobs



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz View Post
    God has no denomination. People do. From their point of view their denomination is right, others are wrong. The difference is the level of tolerance.
    We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.

    Dawkins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schmenke View Post
    Steve Jobs



    Wrong. Steve Wozniak. Jobs was just his shill, kinda like the biblical Gabriel.
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    Religion and Apple. All we need is guns on the thread for the perfect forum storm
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    Both Religion and Apple are tools to control the masses
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    Quote Originally Posted by odykas View Post
    Both Religion and Apple are tools to control the masses
    At least Apple's useful
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow View Post
    We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.

    Dawkins.
    Nice and gives you a pause, too.
    Douglass Addams, the genius who brought us the epic adventure, the 'increasingly inappropriately named "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" wrote a wonderful book on this very subject called "The Long Dark Tea-time of the Soul" addressing
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    the question "what does happen to those Gods we have created when we no longer need them?

    and is a play on the theological treatise Dark Night of the Soul, by Saint John of the Cross.

    I got my copy in Heathrow Terminal 4 (or sumpin) years ago, which in the novel was destroyed when Woden encounters an unusually recalcitrant ticket agent and he blows his top..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz View Post
    Faith is faith. It does not need scientific evidence. Even so, it has plenty.
    Plenty of what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz View Post
    Mark is right. This is an old debate that we do not have to repeat. Those interested can revisit that thread.

    Here I am more interested in the mental approaches to the issue. Sometimes it sounds like believers just believe while atheists tend to rationalize. I am not sure this is entirely true. There's plenty of theologists who rationalize God.
    What if the theologists would rationalize reality instead of God?
    Maybe they will not be theologists anymore, however they would finally know something more.
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    Nah, he would have created the iGod aka Steve Jobs clone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wedge View Post
    If there is a God then who created God?
    Pratchett created small gods...
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    Has nobody else seen the end of Lost? Do you really expect me to believe that that was made up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ioan View Post
    ...iGod ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breeze View Post
    May I remind you that if reason is your means, logic is the method, and in logic you cannot prove a negative. It is incumbent on the arguer making the positve assertion to prove it with evidence. Logically, proof requires evidence, whether empirical or rational, and there can be no evidence for something which does not exist.
    Quote Originally Posted by wedge
    If there is a God then who created God?
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    yes there is, his name is Sebastien Loeb. :P
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    Asking who created God is like saying what came before the start of the Universe. This is a much more fundamental question IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wedge View Post
    If there is a God then who created God?
    Chuck Norris

    God wanted 10 days to create the world. Chuck Norris gave him 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ioan View Post
    If a worldwide poll's outcome would look like what our poll results look now, we would be living in a better world.
    That is naive. I'm an atheist too, but I don't think our world would be necessarily better without religion.
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