22nd Jun 12, 17:08 #1481
Do you guys get a lot of earthquakes or get drunk after work and dance on your laptops?
22nd Jun 12, 17:13 #1482
22nd Jun 12, 17:17 #1483
Like I said, I can't understand, and probably never would understand the ridiculous pricing from Apple. Let's just make our peace with that.
22nd Jun 12, 17:26 #1484
Ok Dave now you have come across someone who says that iPhone is the best music mobile on the marked by miles. And btw I am not using crap earphones, got 2 different one both excellent : Klipsch i4 and Shure SE 315 but even with the original earphones the sound is amazingWhen you're tired of rallying...you're tired of life
22nd Jun 12, 17:34 #1485
22nd Jun 12, 18:50 #1486
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For me for a computer or phone to be trash it has to be unfit for purpose, either doesn't work or is near unusable. I put it to you that on the current market you'll have to try VERY hard to find any product that is 'trash' as you call it, and if it is it will almost certainly be a fly-by-night company flogging a PC-based product due to the ease of manufacture. Apples would be at the top end of the market and satisfaction rates would suggest they are far from trash.
But this raises another question.
On this thread over the last few pages I've paid attention to, you've claimed that Apple customers are gullible and ignorant while Apple products are trash.
I think most people have made clear on this thread that Apples are not the answer to everything and that people have respect for, use and buy other products where they provide a better solution to their needs. Nowhere have I seen anyone deride users of non-Apple products.
You might wish to take note that the only person using derisive language like that is you. This does your argument very little good and by extension puts you in a poor light.
BTW your argument appears to revolve around the fact that Apple products offer poor value for money in terms of hardware performance and it seems that you cannot grasp the fact that other factors might be of importance to consumers. This is an exceptionally simplistic view of the computer and phone market, indeed of the world in general.
Extending your argument to the car market you would be arguing that Kias are by far the best car in the world and that by any objective measure anyone who buys a premium brand such as BMW or Mercedes must be an idiot. The problem is you're ignoring and dismissing all those voices saying "I want something that makes me feel good" "I need something sporty" "I need something that can take me off-road".
22nd Jun 12, 18:54 #1487
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22nd Jun 12, 19:05 #1488
Like Cap R said, its popular because its popular. Many buy them because "everybody else" have one, rather then because the phones specs.
Does that automatically make it good phone? Its the same with most things. Our purchases are influenced by others.
Regarding prices currently these are the cheapest prices that i can find for some phones
HTC One X, 5000kr
S. Galaxy SIII, 5500kr
Iphone 4S, 5200kr
So what with the older 4S makes it worth the same money as the HOX and the S3?
Imo the S3 and HOX are the phones that currently sets the standard for a top of the line smartphone and i dont think
that IP5 will reach up to their standard.
22nd Jun 12, 19:28 #1489You already know very well that programmers stay as far away from Apple as they possibly can.
I suspect they'd find Linux even better but perhaps that's a step too far.
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23rd Jun 12, 10:46 #1492
If you have a problem with my posts or my "language", please add me to your ignore list.
The reason I called Apple products trash is because of the huge difference in price for inferior products. Okay, so in your and henners' opinion the OS X is better and convenient than Windows 7, and it's easy to use for its customers. Okay, so Apple charges more for that. But if I'm paying extra, shouldn't I get the SAME or at least comparable hardware?
Why is there a difference of $800 between the two laptops below? And keep in mind, you're getting inferior hardware on the Macbook for the extra $800.
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Amazon.com: Dell XPS X15Z-7502ELS 15-Inch Laptop (Elemental Silver): Electronics
Only for the Mac OS X?
I'm no tech expert, but I don't think a "better OS" (which is laughable BTW) and a brand name deserves the extra $800.
From that money, I can buy the Dell XPS laptop AND a brand spanking new Samsung Galaxy S3.
23rd Jun 12, 10:52 #1493
BUT yet, they are in the same price range.
People would still buy the iPhone though, because they want the brand name as Jag explained a few posts ago. Beauty is only skin deep.
23rd Jun 12, 11:00 #1494
Linux is the primary choice, followed by Windows at least for the ones that I know.
23rd Jun 12, 11:03 #1495
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23rd Jun 12, 11:37 #1496
For the price of a Mac though you can buy a killer PC with double the specs, which will wipe the floor with the Mac with ease in any area imaginable. I have used such a monster with an SSD. Win 7 boots to desktop in 15 seconds flat, and Photoshop fires up in max 2-3 seconds. Rendering tasks in Premiere are a breeze. The Mac would of course be seriously trailing behind at this point for the SAME price. But of course if you're unsure of how to use or set up a PC, then it's gonna be tough.
Second, you're comparing Android 2.2 Froyo with iOS 5. A better comparison would be 2.3 Gingerbread, especially with Samsung's touchwhiz UI, which makes it the biggest competitor to Apple, not HTC. Android 4.0 ICS is of course better than iOS 5.
Anyway, traditionally Android requires slightly better hardware, just because it's so versatile and customizable.
Also, you do realize that iPhone hardware + touchscreen were made by Samsung. Apple didn't invent apps. They were also a result of widgets made by Samsung. Galaxy S2 sold close to 10 million phones in a year, and was only a close second to iPhone 4S. Apple stayed ahead because of better brand marketing, flashy TV ads (especially the one with Siri doing unrealistic things which it doesn't do in reality) and creating hype around their phones. How many Apple ads do you see on TV versus Samsung ads?
23rd Jun 12, 11:43 #1497
And the prejudices aren't past, they're quite recent actually.
23rd Jun 12, 12:18 #1498
Going by your logic, Windows Phone 7 is the best mobile OS ever, as it requires even less horsepower and blasts the iPhone 4S in benchmark tests with inferior hardware.
Second, nobody stops Apple from releasing phones more often. Hell, they release an iPad every year. So, their latest phone will be compared to the closest competitor I'm afraid. The iPhone 4S cannot be compared with HTC One X or Galaxy S3, because they're both in a different league. But the iPhone 5 will be compared to these.
Third, the iOS 5 is not better than Android 4.0 ICS. You may believe it is, but it's not, as it has been proven in many tests by phone review websites by smartphone experts. So, there's no reason really for Apple to charge a premium. They do it, because they can and because Apple customers believe they are justified.
Also, let's watch that space about who's the market leader in 2 years. iPhone is slightly ahead right now, because it got the jump in the smartphone arena.
Android came from nowhere, made a similar OS and interface, and jumped from 4th at its debut to now world's number one smartphone OS. Through different devices, it now has almost 60% of the world's smartphone share. And since it's open source, they have been developing it at frantic pace, pretty much forcing Apple's hand, which resulted in the launch of iPhone 4S instead of waiting another year for the iPhone 5.
The reason Apple sells more at this point is because it's an established brand, a lot of people are aware of the name Apple. Many don't know about Android, and Samsung is doing a great job putting the name out there with its Galaxy phones.
23rd Jun 12, 12:28 #1499
In estonian technology columns people always passionate fights on topics like "OS X vs Windows vs Linux" or "WP vs Android vs iOS". I think it rather childish as these are merely products and do not pose any real value in our lives.
23rd Jun 12, 12:30 #1500
Well, Qualcomm could be a possible customer to Apple in the future.