Thread: Dakar Rally 2013

Could Nasser win in a Buggy?!

Originally Posted by Plan9

Why are there so many gentlemen in the X-Raid team?

X-Raid is purely privat team, and they get their fundings from gentlemen drivers to devellop a competitive car and atrack some real top drivers. that's how Prodrvie/Mini was suppose to operate in WRC

No Volvo this year ? I suppose that the project is dead after the car burnt last year ...

Two other entry:

Chicherit with an SMG, and Szalay with a new Opel Mokka

Toyota Team :

TOYOTA UNVEILS 2013 DAKAR RALLY LIVERY FOR TOYOTA HILUX | ProMotor

Originally Posted by Grant_RSA

Toyota Team :

TOYOTA UNVEILS 2013 DAKAR RALLY LIVERY FOR TOYOTA HILUX | ProMotor

Thanks Grant.
There have been some rumours about a Ford SouthAfrica team, which may even involve Mark Miller.
o you know somethign about it?

Another rumour in french media is that finally Carlso Sainz may partner Nasser Al Attiyah and Thierry Magnaldi in the atar 2wd Buggy project.

Originally Posted by kober

Are Overdrive doing some development work on the Hilux? Or will they race the 2012 version?

I'll answer myself: those Ovedrive Hiluxes are built on RSA Toyota's licence, and will have all the updates.

And, according to RSA Toyota's Glynn Hall, the 2013 version is faster by one second per km (on gravel though).

Brazilian Guilherme Spinelli will contest the next Dakar Rally in a Mitsubishi ASX.

It is an all-new prototype, based on the old Mitsubishi Racing Lancer. According to what is being said here, it was fully developed here in Brazil by Thierry Viardot (the same that was responsible for the project of the Racing Lancers and is now hired by Mitsubishi Brasil). The parts were produced here in Brazil and went to Europe to complete the montage of the car.

What I heard is that is a better car than the Racing Lancer, new engine, lighter, new weight distribution, and shorter. On the dunes, it's better, and has a better handling too.

Its debut was on the last Rallye Maroc. Spinelli won the first day and finished the event on third overall.

There won't be any other event for the car prior to the Dakar, only a few tests.

Has anyone put out a DVD of this years Dakar event?

Does anyone knows when the entry list will be published?

Evo Dakar Hilux Passes Flies Through Shakedown Test

Must see!



Aleš Loprais will start with his older car because they are not able to finish new Jamal in time (the one from last year was totaled).

This is interesting, am new to this site and happy to see some analysis of the Dakar that is not available anywhere else. I agree with most of the below mentioned
but wonder how the Mitsubishi could be lighter as minimum weight is dependent on cubic capacity of the engine. If it is the same as the Racing Lancer (4 liter), then the weight would be the same (Around 1850 Kg). Also, it most probably is not a V8 with higher CC as mentioned elsewhere on this forum as then the minimum weight would be an increased one.



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This is interesting, am new to this site and happy to see some analysis of the Dakar that is not available anywhere else. I agree with most of the below mentioned
but wonder how the Mitsubishi could be lighter as minimum weight is dependent on cubic capacity of the engine. If it is the same as the Racing Lancer (4 liter), then the weight would be the same (Around 1850 Kg). Also, it most probably is not a V8 with higher CC as mentioned elsewhere on this forum as then the minimum weight would be an increased one.

Originally Posted by Rakad

This is interesting, am new to this site and happy to see some analysis of the Dakar that is not available anywhere else. I agree with most of the below mentioned
but wonder how the Mitsubishi could be lighter as minimum weight is dependent on cubic capacity of the engine. If it is the same as the Racing Lancer (4 liter), then the weight would be the same (Around 1850 Kg). Also, it most probably is not a V8 with higher CC as mentioned elsewhere on this forum as then the minimum weight would be an increased one.

Regarding the weight of the car, Spinelli told me that the car is below the minimum value. So, they can add some extra weight until the car reach the minimum weight, improving the weight distribution of the car.

Oh I see. Wonder whether Mitsubishi has a diesel option too? Miguel Barbosa has been pretty successful in Portugal with a Racing Lancer running a diesel engine. Maybe that option is not ready for the Dakar yet?

They used works diesel Lancers in their last Dakar outing if I remember right. It was quite a disaster.

Originally Posted by Mirek

They used works diesel Lancers in their last Dakar outing if I remember right. It was quite a disaster.

Yep, and after Mitsu stopped worksd involvement, most teams using Racing Lancers turned to gasoline.
3.5 V6, 4.0 V6 and even 2.0 turbo from the Lancer Evo.
Up to this year, main reason is that only a factory can have enough resources to develop diesel proto engines.

Now with new rules, Diesels are not that favoured, (I am not saying that are penalized, but in the past favoured) and gasoline bigger engines seems to be just simpler and more widely available.

In Morocco Spinelli was running a V8, in any video the noise is claerly a V8 for me.
Wevers and Van Loon Lancers (now called HRX) are running Ford Mstang V8 (5 liter).

Originally Posted by ZequeArgentina

Yep, and after Mitsu stopped worksd involvement, most teams using Racing Lancers turned to gasoline.
3.5 V6, 4.0 V6 and even 2.0 turbo from the Lancer Evo.
Up to this year, main reason is that only a factory can have enough resources to develop diesel proto engines.

Now with new rules, Diesels are not that favoured, (I am not saying that are penalized, but in the past favoured) and gasoline bigger engines seems to be just simpler and more widely available.

In Morocco Spinelli was running a V8, in any video the noise is claerly a V8 for me.
Wevers and Van Loon Lancers (now called HRX) are running Ford Mstang V8 (5 liter).

Mitsubishi does not have a V8. At least that's what Wevers said when questioned on their web site as to why a Ford engine was used. Spinelli being from a Mitsubishi team might be still using an advanced spec of the V6. Yes, the sound was different when racing for the first and only time in Morocco.